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Em 11-06-2011 10:34, Hans Verkuil escreveu: > From: Hans Verkuil <hans.verkuil@cisco.com> > > According to the spec the tuner type field is not used when calling > S_TUNER: index, audmode and reserved are the only writable fields. > > So remove the type check. Instead, just set the audmode if the current > tuner mode is set to radio. I suspect that this patch also breaks support for a separate radio tuner. if tuner-type is not properly filled, then the easiest fix would be to revert some changes done at the tuner cleanup/fixup patches applied on .39. Yet, the previous logic were trying to hint the device mode, with is bad (that's why it was changed). The proper change seems to add a parameter to this callback, set by the bridge driver, informing if the device is using radio or video mode. We need also to patch the V4L API specs, as it allows using a video node for radio, and vice versa. This is not well supported, and it seems silly to keep it at the specs and needing to add hints at the drivers due to that. Cheers, Mauro > > Signed-off-by: Hans Verkuil <hans.verkuil@cisco.com> > --- > drivers/media/video/tuner-core.c | 8 +++----- > 1 files changed, 3 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-) > > diff --git a/drivers/media/video/tuner-core.c b/drivers/media/video/tuner-core.c > index 7280998..0ffcf54 100644 > --- a/drivers/media/video/tuner-core.c > +++ b/drivers/media/video/tuner-core.c > @@ -1156,12 +1156,10 @@ static int tuner_s_tuner(struct v4l2_subdev *sd, struct v4l2_tuner *vt) > { > struct tuner *t = to_tuner(sd); > > - if (!set_mode(t, vt->type)) > - return 0; > - > - if (t->mode == V4L2_TUNER_RADIO) > + if (t->mode == V4L2_TUNER_RADIO) { > t->audmode = vt->audmode; > - set_freq(t, 0); > + set_freq(t, 0); > + } > > return 0; > } -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-media" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
On Saturday, June 11, 2011 15:54:59 Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: > Em 11-06-2011 10:34, Hans Verkuil escreveu: > > From: Hans Verkuil <hans.verkuil@cisco.com> > > > > According to the spec the tuner type field is not used when calling > > S_TUNER: index, audmode and reserved are the only writable fields. > > > > So remove the type check. Instead, just set the audmode if the current > > tuner mode is set to radio. > > I suspect that this patch also breaks support for a separate radio tuner. > if tuner-type is not properly filled, then the easiest fix would be to > revert some changes done at the tuner cleanup/fixup patches applied on .39. > Yet, the previous logic were trying to hint the device mode, with is bad > (that's why it was changed). > > The proper change seems to add a parameter to this callback, set by the > bridge driver, informing if the device is using radio or video mode. > We need also to patch the V4L API specs, as it allows using a video node > for radio, and vice versa. This is not well supported, and it seems silly > to keep it at the specs and needing to add hints at the drivers due to > that. So, just to make sure I understand correctly what you want. The bridge or platform drivers will fill in the vf->type (for g/s_frequency) or vt->type (for g/s_tuner) based on the device node: RADIO if /dev/radio is used, TV for anything else. What about VIDIOC_S_FREQUENCY? The spec says that the app needs to fill this in. Will we just overwrite vf->type or will we check and return -EINVAL if the app tries to set e.g. a TV frequency on /dev/radio? Is VIDIOC_S_FREQUENCY allowed to change the tuner mode? E.g. if /dev/radio was opened, and now I open /dev/video and call S_FREQUENCY with the TV tuner type, should that change the tuner to tv mode? I think the type passed to S_FREQUENCY should 1) match the device node's type (if not, then return -EINVAL) and 2) should match the current mode (if not, then return -EBUSY). So attempts to change the TV frequency when in radio mode should fail. This second rule should also be valid for S_TUNER. What should G_TUNER return on a video node when in radio mode or vice versa? For G_FREQUENCY you can still return the last used frequency, but that's much more ambiguous for G_TUNER. One option is to set rxsubchans, signal and afc all to 0 if you query G_TUNER when 'in the wrong mode'. The VIDIOC_G/S_MODULATOR ioctls do not have a type and they are RADIO only, so that's OK. And how do we switch between radio and TV? Right now opening the radio node will set the tuner in radio mode, and calling S_STD will change the mode to TV again. As mentioned above, what S_FREQUENCY is supposed to do is undefined at the moment. What about this: Opening /dev/radio effectively starts the radio mode. So if there is TV capture in progress, then the open should return -EBUSY. Otherwise it switches the tuner to radio mode. And it stays in radio mode until the last filehandle of /dev/radio is closed. At that point it will automatically switch back to TV mode (if there is one, of course). While it is in radio mode calls to S_STD and S_FREQUENCY from /dev/video will return -EBUSY. Any attempt to start streaming from /dev/video will also return -EBUSY (radio 'streaming' is in progress after all). Effectively, S_STD no longer switches back to TV mode. That only happens when the last user of /dev/radio left. It certainly sounds a lot saner to me. Of course, I'm ignoring DVB in this story. You may have to negotiate between radio, Tv and DVB. Anyway, this all sounds very nice, but it's a heck of a lot of work. I'd much rather just fix this bug without changing the spec and behavior of drivers. That's a nice project perhaps for a rainy day (or week...), but not for a fix that is needed asap and that works for kernel v3.0. The whole radio/tv/dvb tuner selection is a big mess and needs to be solved, but let's do that in a separate project. Regards, Hans -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-media" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@xs4all.nl> wrote: >On Saturday, June 11, 2011 15:54:59 Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: >> Em 11-06-2011 10:34, Hans Verkuil escreveu: >> > From: Hans Verkuil <hans.verkuil@cisco.com> >> > >> > According to the spec the tuner type field is not used when calling >> > S_TUNER: index, audmode and reserved are the only writable fields. >> > >> > So remove the type check. Instead, just set the audmode if the >current >> > tuner mode is set to radio. >> >> I suspect that this patch also breaks support for a separate radio >tuner. >> if tuner-type is not properly filled, then the easiest fix would be >to >> revert some changes done at the tuner cleanup/fixup patches applied >on .39. >> Yet, the previous logic were trying to hint the device mode, with is >bad >> (that's why it was changed). >> >> The proper change seems to add a parameter to this callback, set by >the >> bridge driver, informing if the device is using radio or video mode. >> We need also to patch the V4L API specs, as it allows using a video >node >> for radio, and vice versa. This is not well supported, and it seems >silly >> to keep it at the specs and needing to add hints at the drivers due >to >> that. > >So, just to make sure I understand correctly what you want. The bridge >or >platform drivers will fill in the vf->type (for g/s_frequency) or >vt->type >(for g/s_tuner) based on the device node: RADIO if /dev/radio is used, >TV for anything else. > >What about VIDIOC_S_FREQUENCY? The spec says that the app needs to fill >this >in. Will we just overwrite vf->type or will we check and return -EINVAL >if >the app tries to set e.g. a TV frequency on /dev/radio? > >Is VIDIOC_S_FREQUENCY allowed to change the tuner mode? E.g. if >/dev/radio was >opened, and now I open /dev/video and call S_FREQUENCY with the TV >tuner type, >should that change the tuner to tv mode? > >I think the type passed to S_FREQUENCY should 1) match the device >node's type >(if not, then return -EINVAL) and 2) should match the current mode (if >not, >then return -EBUSY). So attempts to change the TV frequency when in >radio >mode should fail. This second rule should also be valid for S_TUNER. > >What should G_TUNER return on a video node when in radio mode or vice >versa? >For G_FREQUENCY you can still return the last used frequency, but >that's >much more ambiguous for G_TUNER. One option is to set rxsubchans, >signal and >afc all to 0 if you query G_TUNER when 'in the wrong mode'. > >The VIDIOC_G/S_MODULATOR ioctls do not have a type and they are RADIO >only, >so that's OK. > >And how do we switch between radio and TV? Right now opening the radio >node >will set the tuner in radio mode, and calling S_STD will change the >mode to >TV again. As mentioned above, what S_FREQUENCY is supposed to do is >undefined >at the moment. > >What about this: > >Opening /dev/radio effectively starts the radio mode. So if there is TV >capture in progress, then the open should return -EBUSY. Otherwise it >switches the tuner to radio mode. And it stays in radio mode until the >last filehandle of /dev/radio is closed. At that point it will >automatically >switch back to TV mode (if there is one, of course). > >While it is in radio mode calls to S_STD and S_FREQUENCY from >/dev/video >will return -EBUSY. Any attempt to start streaming from /dev/video will >also return -EBUSY (radio 'streaming' is in progress after all). > >Effectively, S_STD no longer switches back to TV mode. That only >happens when >the last user of /dev/radio left. It certainly sounds a lot saner to >me. > >Of course, I'm ignoring DVB in this story. You may have to negotiate >between >radio, Tv and DVB. > >Anyway, this all sounds very nice, but it's a heck of a lot of work. >I'd much >rather just fix this bug without changing the spec and behavior of >drivers. >That's a nice project perhaps for a rainy day (or week...), but not for >a fix >that is needed asap and that works for kernel v3.0. > >The whole radio/tv/dvb tuner selection is a big mess and needs to be >solved, >but let's do that in a separate project. > >Regards, > > Hans >-- >To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-media" >in >the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org >More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html You have to be able to stream from a video node /dev/video24 when /dev/radio is open. /dev/radio is a control only node. (Under current spec behavior.) Also there is at least one non-test app out there, brought up on the ivtv lists a few months ago in the context of v4l2 priorty handling, that, IIRC, makes calls on /dev/video24 with /dev/radio open. Regards, Andy -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-media" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Em 11-06-2011 14:27, Hans Verkuil escreveu: > On Saturday, June 11, 2011 15:54:59 Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: >> Em 11-06-2011 10:34, Hans Verkuil escreveu: >>> From: Hans Verkuil <hans.verkuil@cisco.com> >>> >>> According to the spec the tuner type field is not used when calling >>> S_TUNER: index, audmode and reserved are the only writable fields. >>> >>> So remove the type check. Instead, just set the audmode if the current >>> tuner mode is set to radio. >> >> I suspect that this patch also breaks support for a separate radio tuner. >> if tuner-type is not properly filled, then the easiest fix would be to >> revert some changes done at the tuner cleanup/fixup patches applied on .39. >> Yet, the previous logic were trying to hint the device mode, with is bad >> (that's why it was changed). >> >> The proper change seems to add a parameter to this callback, set by the >> bridge driver, informing if the device is using radio or video mode. >> We need also to patch the V4L API specs, as it allows using a video node >> for radio, and vice versa. This is not well supported, and it seems silly >> to keep it at the specs and needing to add hints at the drivers due to >> that. > > So, just to make sure I understand correctly what you want. The bridge or > platform drivers will fill in the vf->type (for g/s_frequency) or vt->type > (for g/s_tuner) based on the device node: RADIO if /dev/radio is used, > TV for anything else. Yes. I remember I've reviewed the bridge drivers when I rewrote the tuner code. Of course, I might have left something else. Btw, the older code were also requiring it. The cx18 implementation were merged after the changes, so maybe it is not doing the right thing. > > What about VIDIOC_S_FREQUENCY? The spec says that the app needs to fill this > in. Will we just overwrite vf->type or will we check and return -EINVAL if > the app tries to set e.g. a TV frequency on /dev/radio? That's a very good question. What happens is that the V4L2 API used to allow opening a /dev/radio device for TV (or even for VBI). IMHO, this were a trouble at the API specs. I think that this were changed on newer versions of the spec. > Is VIDIOC_S_FREQUENCY allowed to change the tuner mode? E.g. if /dev/radio was > opened, and now I open /dev/video and call S_FREQUENCY with the TV tuner type, > should that change the tuner to tv mode? Yes. I think that some applications like kradio just keeps the device node opened. If we return -EBUSY, those applications will break. The reverse is more tricky: e. g. if /dev/video is streaming, I think that the bridge driver should return -EBUSY if the device can't do both TV and radio at the same time, but this is something that it is device-specific, so such logic, if needed, should be implemented at the bridge driver. > I think the type passed to S_FREQUENCY should 1) match the device node's type > (if not, then return -EINVAL) and 2) should match the current mode (if not, > then return -EBUSY). So attempts to change the TV frequency when in radio > mode should fail. This second rule should also be valid for S_TUNER. See above. > What should G_TUNER return on a video node when in radio mode or vice versa? > For G_FREQUENCY you can still return the last used frequency, but that's > much more ambiguous for G_TUNER. One option is to set rxsubchans, signal and > afc all to 0 if you query G_TUNER when 'in the wrong mode'. The current logic should handle this case well. I tested it carefully. Basically, if the device is on Radio mode, and has a separate tuner for TV, the TV tuner should not touch the structure. The Radio tuner should properly fill the values. Calls to G_TUNER/G_FREQUENCY shouldn't switch the device mode, or they may break applications like kradio, that may be always there during the entire KDE section. > The VIDIOC_G/S_MODULATOR ioctls do not have a type and they are RADIO only, > so that's OK. > > And how do we switch between radio and TV? Right now opening the radio node > will set the tuner in radio mode, and calling S_STD will change the mode to > TV again. As mentioned above, what S_FREQUENCY is supposed to do is undefined > at the moment. If S_FREQUENCY is called from /dev/video (or /dev/vbi), it should set it to TV. If it is called from /dev/radio, it should put the device on radio mode. The current logic already does that. I tested it on several devices, with both tea5767 and without it. > What about this: > > Opening /dev/radio effectively starts the radio mode. So if there is TV > capture in progress, then the open should return -EBUSY. Otherwise it > switches the tuner to radio mode. And it stays in radio mode until the > last filehandle of /dev/radio is closed. At that point it will automatically > switch back to TV mode (if there is one, of course). No. This would break existing applications. The mode switch should be done at S_FREQUENCY (e. g. when the radio application is tuning into a channel). > While it is in radio mode calls to S_STD and S_FREQUENCY from /dev/video > will return -EBUSY. Any attempt to start streaming from /dev/video will > also return -EBUSY (radio 'streaming' is in progress after all). For the same reason as said above, this will cause troubles for existing appications. > Effectively, S_STD no longer switches back to TV mode. That only happens when > the last user of /dev/radio left. It certainly sounds a lot saner to me. Opening a /dev/radio device doesn't mean that radio is "streaming". A radio is streaming if: - tuner was set with S_FREQUENCY - device is not muted. Btw, the console application "radio" allows you to, open a device, set a frequency, unmute the device and close the radio device: radio -qf 91.4 So, even having the device node closed doesn't mean that the radio is not being used. > > Of course, I'm ignoring DVB in this story. You may have to negotiate between > radio, Tv and DVB. > > Anyway, this all sounds very nice, but it's a heck of a lot of work. I'd much > rather just fix this bug without changing the spec and behavior of drivers. > That's a nice project perhaps for a rainy day (or week...), but not for a fix > that is needed asap and that works for kernel v3.0. I failed to see what's broken. I suspect that the only thing that needs to be corrected are the bridge drivers that aren't properly setting the tuner type before calling the tuner code. > > The whole radio/tv/dvb tuner selection is a big mess and needs to be solved, > but let's do that in a separate project. Yes. > > Regards, > > Hans -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-media" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
On Saturday, June 11, 2011 21:04:57 Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: > Em 11-06-2011 14:27, Hans Verkuil escreveu: > > On Saturday, June 11, 2011 15:54:59 Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: > >> Em 11-06-2011 10:34, Hans Verkuil escreveu: > >>> From: Hans Verkuil <hans.verkuil@cisco.com> > >>> > >>> According to the spec the tuner type field is not used when calling > >>> S_TUNER: index, audmode and reserved are the only writable fields. > >>> > >>> So remove the type check. Instead, just set the audmode if the current > >>> tuner mode is set to radio. > >> > >> I suspect that this patch also breaks support for a separate radio tuner. > >> if tuner-type is not properly filled, then the easiest fix would be to > >> revert some changes done at the tuner cleanup/fixup patches applied on .39. > >> Yet, the previous logic were trying to hint the device mode, with is bad > >> (that's why it was changed). > >> > >> The proper change seems to add a parameter to this callback, set by the > >> bridge driver, informing if the device is using radio or video mode. > >> We need also to patch the V4L API specs, as it allows using a video node > >> for radio, and vice versa. This is not well supported, and it seems silly > >> to keep it at the specs and needing to add hints at the drivers due to > >> that. > > > > So, just to make sure I understand correctly what you want. The bridge or > > platform drivers will fill in the vf->type (for g/s_frequency) or vt->type > > (for g/s_tuner) based on the device node: RADIO if /dev/radio is used, > > TV for anything else. > > Yes. I remember I've reviewed the bridge drivers when I rewrote the tuner code. > Of course, I might have left something else. Btw, the older code were also > requiring it. > > The cx18 implementation were merged after the changes, so maybe it is not doing > the right thing. Actually, G_TUNER was wrong for bttv, ivtv, cx18 and pvrusb2. So it wasn't just some random driver that failed to set vf/vt->type. > > > > > What about VIDIOC_S_FREQUENCY? The spec says that the app needs to fill this > > in. Will we just overwrite vf->type or will we check and return -EINVAL if > > the app tries to set e.g. a TV frequency on /dev/radio? > > That's a very good question. What happens is that the V4L2 API used to allow > opening a /dev/radio device for TV (or even for VBI). IMHO, this were a trouble > at the API specs. I think that this were changed on newer versions of the spec. If you want, then I can add an extra patch to my v4 patch series that returns -EINVAL in video_ioctl2 if S_FREQUENCY is called with an inconsistent tuner type. (inconsistent with the device node's type, that is). > > Is VIDIOC_S_FREQUENCY allowed to change the tuner mode? E.g. if /dev/radio was > > opened, and now I open /dev/video and call S_FREQUENCY with the TV tuner type, > > should that change the tuner to tv mode? > > Yes. I think that some applications like kradio just keeps the device node opened. > If we return -EBUSY, those applications will break. The reverse is more tricky: > e. g. if /dev/video is streaming, I think that the bridge driver should return > -EBUSY if the device can't do both TV and radio at the same time, but this is > something that it is device-specific, so such logic, if needed, should be implemented > at the bridge driver. Agreed. > > I think the type passed to S_FREQUENCY should 1) match the device node's type > > (if not, then return -EINVAL) and 2) should match the current mode (if not, > > then return -EBUSY). So attempts to change the TV frequency when in radio > > mode should fail. This second rule should also be valid for S_TUNER. > > See above. > > > What should G_TUNER return on a video node when in radio mode or vice versa? > > For G_FREQUENCY you can still return the last used frequency, but that's > > much more ambiguous for G_TUNER. One option is to set rxsubchans, signal and > > afc all to 0 if you query G_TUNER when 'in the wrong mode'. > > The current logic should handle this case well. I tested it carefully. Basically, > if the device is on Radio mode, and has a separate tuner for TV, the TV tuner > should not touch the structure. The Radio tuner should properly fill the values. I analyzed it again and you are correct. > Calls to G_TUNER/G_FREQUENCY shouldn't switch the device mode, or they may break > applications like kradio, that may be always there during the entire KDE section. Obviously. > > The VIDIOC_G/S_MODULATOR ioctls do not have a type and they are RADIO only, > > so that's OK. > > > > And how do we switch between radio and TV? Right now opening the radio node > > will set the tuner in radio mode, and calling S_STD will change the mode to > > TV again. As mentioned above, what S_FREQUENCY is supposed to do is undefined > > at the moment. > > If S_FREQUENCY is called from /dev/video (or /dev/vbi), it should set it to TV. If > it is called from /dev/radio, it should put the device on radio mode. > > The current logic already does that. I tested it on several devices, with both > tea5767 and without it. > > > What about this: > > > > Opening /dev/radio effectively starts the radio mode. So if there is TV > > capture in progress, then the open should return -EBUSY. Otherwise it > > switches the tuner to radio mode. And it stays in radio mode until the > > last filehandle of /dev/radio is closed. At that point it will automatically > > switch back to TV mode (if there is one, of course). > > No. This would break existing applications. The mode switch should be done > at S_FREQUENCY (e. g. when the radio application is tuning into a channel). This is not what happens today as the switch to radio occurs as soon as you open the radio node. It's the reason for the s_radio op. The V4L2 specification is silent on this topic, unfortunately. And I'm not sure how applications handle this. I think only changing the mode when calling S_FREQUENCY (and S_STD) is a good thing since this automatic mode switch when just opening a node goes against the V4L2 philosophy. Just opening a node shouldn't change the state of the device. > > While it is in radio mode calls to S_STD and S_FREQUENCY from /dev/video > > will return -EBUSY. Any attempt to start streaming from /dev/video will > > also return -EBUSY (radio 'streaming' is in progress after all). > > For the same reason as said above, this will cause troubles for existing > appications. > > > > Effectively, S_STD no longer switches back to TV mode. That only happens when > > the last user of /dev/radio left. It certainly sounds a lot saner to me. > > Opening a /dev/radio device doesn't mean that radio is "streaming". A radio > is streaming if: > - tuner was set with S_FREQUENCY > - device is not muted. > > Btw, the console application "radio" allows you to, open a device, set a frequency, > unmute the device and close the radio device: > radio -qf 91.4 > > So, even having the device node closed doesn't mean that the radio is not being > used. Yeah, that's right. It slipped my mind when I wrote that. Regards, Hans > > > > > Of course, I'm ignoring DVB in this story. You may have to negotiate between > > radio, Tv and DVB. > > > > Anyway, this all sounds very nice, but it's a heck of a lot of work. I'd much > > rather just fix this bug without changing the spec and behavior of drivers. > > That's a nice project perhaps for a rainy day (or week...), but not for a fix > > that is needed asap and that works for kernel v3.0. > > I failed to see what's broken. I suspect that the only thing that needs to > be corrected are the bridge drivers that aren't properly setting the tuner > type before calling the tuner code. > > > > > The whole radio/tv/dvb tuner selection is a big mess and needs to be solved, > > but let's do that in a separate project. > > Yes. > > > > Regards, > > > > Hans > > -- > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-media" in > the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html > > -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-media" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
diff --git a/drivers/media/video/tuner-core.c b/drivers/media/video/tuner-core.c index 7280998..0ffcf54 100644 --- a/drivers/media/video/tuner-core.c +++ b/drivers/media/video/tuner-core.c @@ -1156,12 +1156,10 @@ static int tuner_s_tuner(struct v4l2_subdev *sd, struct v4l2_tuner *vt) { struct tuner *t = to_tuner(sd); - if (!set_mode(t, vt->type)) - return 0; - - if (t->mode == V4L2_TUNER_RADIO) + if (t->mode == V4L2_TUNER_RADIO) { t->audmode = vt->audmode; - set_freq(t, 0); + set_freq(t, 0); + } return 0; }