Message ID | cover.1552545525.git.viresh.kumar@linaro.org (mailing list archive) |
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Headers | show |
Series | cpufreq: Call transition notifier only once for each policy | expand |
On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 7:43 AM Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org> wrote: > > Currently we call the cpufreq transition notifiers once for each CPU of > the policy->cpus cpumask, which isn't that efficient. Why isn't it efficient? Transitions are per-policy anyway, so if something needs to be done for each CPU in the policy, it doesn't matter too much which part of the code carries out the iteration. I guess some notifiers need to know what other CPUs there are in the policy? If so, then why? > This patchset tries to simplify that by adding another field in struct cpufreq_freqs, > cpus, so the callback has all the information available with a single > call for each policy. Well, you can argue that the core is simplified by it somewhat, but the notifiers aren't. They actually get more complex, conceptually too, because they now need to worry about offline vs online CPUs etc. Also I wonder why you decided to pass a cpumask in freqs instead of just passing a policy pointer. If you change things from per-CPU to per-policy, passing the whole policy seems more natural.
On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 10:28 AM Rafael J. Wysocki <rafael@kernel.org> wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 7:43 AM Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org> wrote: > > > > Currently we call the cpufreq transition notifiers once for each CPU of > > the policy->cpus cpumask, which isn't that efficient. > > Why isn't it efficient? > > Transitions are per-policy anyway, so if something needs to be done > for each CPU in the policy, it doesn't matter too much which part of > the code carries out the iteration. > > I guess some notifiers need to know what other CPUs there are in the > policy? If so, then why? > > > This patchset tries to simplify that by adding another field in struct cpufreq_freqs, > > cpus, so the callback has all the information available with a single > > call for each policy. > > Well, you can argue that the core is simplified by it somewhat, but > the notifiers aren't. They actually get more complex, conceptually > too, because they now need to worry about offline vs online CPUs etc. > > Also I wonder why you decided to pass a cpumask in freqs instead of > just passing a policy pointer. If you change things from per-CPU to > per-policy, passing the whole policy seems more natural. It also looks to me like all that needs to be one patch, or you have the ugly transition situation in which notifiers are still invoked for each CPU, but they assume to be invoked once per policy.
On 14-03-19, 10:28, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 7:43 AM Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org> wrote: > > > > Currently we call the cpufreq transition notifiers once for each CPU of > > the policy->cpus cpumask, which isn't that efficient. > > Why isn't it efficient? > > Transitions are per-policy anyway, so if something needs to be done > for each CPU in the policy, it doesn't matter too much which part of > the code carries out the iteration. Even if per-cpu iteration has to be done at some place, we are avoiding function calls here and the code/locking in the notifier layer as well. Will get more such info into changelog. > I guess some notifiers need to know what other CPUs there are in the > policy? If so, then why? You mean about the offline CPUs? I mentioned the rationale in 1/7. It is to avoid bugs where we may end up using a stale value if the CPUs are offlined/onlined regularly. > > This patchset tries to simplify that by adding another field in struct cpufreq_freqs, > > cpus, so the callback has all the information available with a single > > call for each policy. > > Well, you can argue that the core is simplified by it somewhat, but > the notifiers aren't. They actually get more complex, conceptually > too, because they now need to worry about offline vs online CPUs etc. 24 different parts of the kernel register for transition notifiers and only 5 required update here, the other 19 don't need to do per-cpu stuff and they also get benefited by this work. Those routines will get called only once now, instead of once per every CPU of the policy. > Also I wonder why you decided to pass a cpumask in freqs instead of > just passing a policy pointer. If you change things from per-CPU to > per-policy, passing the whole policy seems more natural. I did that because they don't need to use the other fields of the policy today and that doesn't look likely in near future as well. I can do that if you want, but not sure why more information should be provided than required.
On 14-03-19, 10:40, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 10:28 AM Rafael J. Wysocki <rafael@kernel.org> wrote: > > > > On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 7:43 AM Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org> wrote: > > > > > > Currently we call the cpufreq transition notifiers once for each CPU of > > > the policy->cpus cpumask, which isn't that efficient. > > > > Why isn't it efficient? > > > > Transitions are per-policy anyway, so if something needs to be done > > for each CPU in the policy, it doesn't matter too much which part of > > the code carries out the iteration. > > > > I guess some notifiers need to know what other CPUs there are in the > > policy? If so, then why? > > > > > This patchset tries to simplify that by adding another field in struct cpufreq_freqs, > > > cpus, so the callback has all the information available with a single > > > call for each policy. > > > > Well, you can argue that the core is simplified by it somewhat, but > > the notifiers aren't. They actually get more complex, conceptually > > too, because they now need to worry about offline vs online CPUs etc. > > > > Also I wonder why you decided to pass a cpumask in freqs instead of > > just passing a policy pointer. If you change things from per-CPU to > > per-policy, passing the whole policy seems more natural. > > It also looks to me like all that needs to be one patch, or you have > the ugly transition situation in which notifiers are still invoked for > each CPU, but they assume to be invoked once per policy. I assumed that calling something like set_cyc2ns_scale() in x86 multiple times for each CPU shouldn't be that bad even if the frequency changes only once, but such things may actually have side-effects. I should merged them all.
On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 11:16 AM Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org> wrote: > > On 14-03-19, 10:28, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 7:43 AM Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org> wrote: > > > > > > Currently we call the cpufreq transition notifiers once for each CPU of > > > the policy->cpus cpumask, which isn't that efficient. > > > > Why isn't it efficient? > > > > Transitions are per-policy anyway, so if something needs to be done > > for each CPU in the policy, it doesn't matter too much which part of > > the code carries out the iteration. > > Even if per-cpu iteration has to be done at some place, we are > avoiding function calls here and the code/locking in the notifier > layer as well. Will get more such info into changelog. > > > I guess some notifiers need to know what other CPUs there are in the > > policy? If so, then why? > > You mean about the offline CPUs? I mentioned the rationale in 1/7. It > is to avoid bugs where we may end up using a stale value if the CPUs > are offlined/onlined regularly. I'm not really convinced about this. CPU online really should take care of updating everything anyway. > > > This patchset tries to simplify that by adding another field in struct cpufreq_freqs, > > > cpus, so the callback has all the information available with a single > > > call for each policy. > > > > Well, you can argue that the core is simplified by it somewhat, but > > the notifiers aren't. They actually get more complex, conceptually > > too, because they now need to worry about offline vs online CPUs etc. > > 24 different parts of the kernel register for transition notifiers and > only 5 required update here, the other 19 don't need to do per-cpu > stuff and they also get benefited by this work. Those routines will > get called only once now, instead of once per every CPU of the policy. This is a much better rationale for the change than the one given originally IMO. :-) > > Also I wonder why you decided to pass a cpumask in freqs instead of > > just passing a policy pointer. If you change things from per-CPU to > > per-policy, passing the whole policy seems more natural. > > I did that because they don't need to use the other fields of the > policy today and that doesn't look likely in near future as well. But some of them need to combine the new cpumask with cpu_online_mask() to get what would be policy->cpus effectively. That would be avoidable if you passed the policy pointer to them.
On 14-03-19, 11:55, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 11:16 AM Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org> wrote: > But some of them need to combine the new cpumask with > cpu_online_mask() to get what would be policy->cpus effectively. That > would be avoidable if you passed the policy pointer to them. Right, that's what I also thought after your previous email. Will pass the policy pointer instead.