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[3/3] Documentation: RISC-V: Mention the UEFI Standards

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Series [1/3] Documentation: RISC-V: Fix a typo in patch-acceptance | expand

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Palmer Dabbelt Sept. 20, 2022, 2:01 p.m. UTC
The current patch acceptance policy requires that specifications are
approved by the RISC-V foundation, but we rely on external
specifications as well.  This explicitly calls out the UEFI
specifications that we're starting to depend on.

Signed-off-by: Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@rivosinc.com>
---
This also came up during the Plumbers BoF.  The other discussed options
were to wait for an ACPI/UEFI specification to be published or to just
not wait at all, but this middle ground matches how we handle the RISC-V
specifications and it seems like there was broad agreement on it.

As usual with policy stuff I'll wait a bit for others to have a chance
to chime in, but I think the wording on this one is at least easier to
reason about than some of the others.
---
 Documentation/riscv/patch-acceptance.rst | 8 +++++---
 1 file changed, 5 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)

Comments

Conor Dooley Sept. 20, 2022, 5:49 p.m. UTC | #1
On Tue, Sep 20, 2022 at 07:01:41AM -0700, Palmer Dabbelt wrote:
> The current patch acceptance policy requires that specifications are
> approved by the RISC-V foundation, but we rely on external
> specifications as well.  This explicitly calls out the UEFI
> specifications that we're starting to depend on.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@rivosinc.com>
> ---
> This also came up during the Plumbers BoF.  The other discussed options
> were to wait for an ACPI/UEFI specification to be published or to just
> not wait at all, but this middle ground matches how we handle the RISC-V
> specifications and it seems like there was broad agreement on it.
> 
> As usual with policy stuff I'll wait a bit for others to have a chance
> to chime in, but I think the wording on this one is at least easier to
> reason about than some of the others.
> ---
>  Documentation/riscv/patch-acceptance.rst | 8 +++++---
>  1 file changed, 5 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/Documentation/riscv/patch-acceptance.rst b/Documentation/riscv/patch-acceptance.rst
> index 8087718556da..08cb92324eaf 100644
> --- a/Documentation/riscv/patch-acceptance.rst
> +++ b/Documentation/riscv/patch-acceptance.rst
> @@ -20,9 +20,11 @@ Submit Checklist Addendum
>  -------------------------
>  We'll only accept patches for new modules or extensions if the
>  specifications for those modules or extensions are listed as being

> +unlikely to make incompatible changes in the future.  For

Nit, but the wording here is awkward since it sounds like the module or
extension is the "actor". How about:
s/make incompatible changes/be incompatibly changed/

> +specifications from the RISC-V foundation this means "Frozen" or
> +"Ratified", for the UEFI specifications this means a published ECR.
> +(Developers may, of course, maintain their own Linux kernel trees that
> +contain code for any draft extensions that they wish.)

Could we just drop the brackets from this sentence?

Either way, policy wise/idealogically this again looks good to me, so
with or without the wording changed:
Reviewed-by: Conor Dooley <conor.dooley@microchip.com>

>  Additionally, the RISC-V specification allows implementors to create
>  their own custom extensions.  These custom extensions aren't required

Thanks,
Conor.
Atish Patra Sept. 26, 2022, 5:34 p.m. UTC | #2
On Tue, Sep 20, 2022 at 7:31 AM Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@rivosinc.com> wrote:
>
> The current patch acceptance policy requires that specifications are
> approved by the RISC-V foundation, but we rely on external
> specifications as well.  This explicitly calls out the UEFI
> specifications that we're starting to depend on.
>
> Signed-off-by: Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@rivosinc.com>
> ---
> This also came up during the Plumbers BoF.  The other discussed options
> were to wait for an ACPI/UEFI specification to be published or to just
> not wait at all, but this middle ground matches how we handle the RISC-V
> specifications and it seems like there was broad agreement on it.
>
> As usual with policy stuff I'll wait a bit for others to have a chance
> to chime in, but I think the wording on this one is at least easier to
> reason about than some of the others.
> ---
>  Documentation/riscv/patch-acceptance.rst | 8 +++++---
>  1 file changed, 5 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/Documentation/riscv/patch-acceptance.rst b/Documentation/riscv/patch-acceptance.rst
> index 8087718556da..08cb92324eaf 100644
> --- a/Documentation/riscv/patch-acceptance.rst
> +++ b/Documentation/riscv/patch-acceptance.rst
> @@ -20,9 +20,11 @@ Submit Checklist Addendum
>  -------------------------
>  We'll only accept patches for new modules or extensions if the
>  specifications for those modules or extensions are listed as being
> -"Frozen" or "Ratified" by the RISC-V Foundation.  (Developers may, of
> -course, maintain their own Linux kernel trees that contain code for
> -any draft extensions that they wish.)
> +unlikely to make incompatible changes in the future.  For
> +specifications from the RISC-V foundation this means "Frozen" or
> +"Ratified", for the UEFI specifications this means a published ECR.

It would be good to explicitly mention "UEFI forum specifications"
or
UEFI/ACPI specifications.

> +(Developers may, of course, maintain their own Linux kernel trees that
> +contain code for any draft extensions that they wish.)
>
>  Additionally, the RISC-V specification allows implementors to create
>  their own custom extensions.  These custom extensions aren't required
> --
> 2.34.1
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> linux-riscv mailing list
> linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org
> http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-riscv

Other than that, LGTM

Reviewed-by: Atish Patra <atishp@rivosinc.com>
Palmer Dabbelt Oct. 13, 2022, 4:56 a.m. UTC | #3
On Tue, 20 Sep 2022 10:49:08 PDT (-0700), Conor Dooley wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 20, 2022 at 07:01:41AM -0700, Palmer Dabbelt wrote:
>> The current patch acceptance policy requires that specifications are
>> approved by the RISC-V foundation, but we rely on external
>> specifications as well.  This explicitly calls out the UEFI
>> specifications that we're starting to depend on.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@rivosinc.com>
>> ---
>> This also came up during the Plumbers BoF.  The other discussed options
>> were to wait for an ACPI/UEFI specification to be published or to just
>> not wait at all, but this middle ground matches how we handle the RISC-V
>> specifications and it seems like there was broad agreement on it.
>>
>> As usual with policy stuff I'll wait a bit for others to have a chance
>> to chime in, but I think the wording on this one is at least easier to
>> reason about than some of the others.
>> ---
>>  Documentation/riscv/patch-acceptance.rst | 8 +++++---
>>  1 file changed, 5 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/Documentation/riscv/patch-acceptance.rst b/Documentation/riscv/patch-acceptance.rst
>> index 8087718556da..08cb92324eaf 100644
>> --- a/Documentation/riscv/patch-acceptance.rst
>> +++ b/Documentation/riscv/patch-acceptance.rst
>> @@ -20,9 +20,11 @@ Submit Checklist Addendum
>>  -------------------------
>>  We'll only accept patches for new modules or extensions if the
>>  specifications for those modules or extensions are listed as being
>
>> +unlikely to make incompatible changes in the future.  For
>
> Nit, but the wording here is awkward since it sounds like the module or
> extension is the "actor". How about:
> s/make incompatible changes/be incompatibly changed/

Makes sense, it's in the v2.

>> +specifications from the RISC-V foundation this means "Frozen" or
>> +"Ratified", for the UEFI specifications this means a published ECR.
>> +(Developers may, of course, maintain their own Linux kernel trees that
>> +contain code for any draft extensions that they wish.)
>
> Could we just drop the brackets from this sentence?

IMO we should keep it, there was some confusion about how kernel trees 
work when we were at Plumbers.

>
> Either way, policy wise/idealogically this again looks good to me, so
> with or without the wording changed:
> Reviewed-by: Conor Dooley <conor.dooley@microchip.com>
>
>>  Additionally, the RISC-V specification allows implementors to create
>>  their own custom extensions.  These custom extensions aren't required
>
> Thanks,
> Conor.
Palmer Dabbelt Oct. 13, 2022, 4:56 a.m. UTC | #4
On Mon, 26 Sep 2022 10:34:07 PDT (-0700), atishp@atishpatra.org wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 20, 2022 at 7:31 AM Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@rivosinc.com> wrote:
>>
>> The current patch acceptance policy requires that specifications are
>> approved by the RISC-V foundation, but we rely on external
>> specifications as well.  This explicitly calls out the UEFI
>> specifications that we're starting to depend on.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@rivosinc.com>
>> ---
>> This also came up during the Plumbers BoF.  The other discussed options
>> were to wait for an ACPI/UEFI specification to be published or to just
>> not wait at all, but this middle ground matches how we handle the RISC-V
>> specifications and it seems like there was broad agreement on it.
>>
>> As usual with policy stuff I'll wait a bit for others to have a chance
>> to chime in, but I think the wording on this one is at least easier to
>> reason about than some of the others.
>> ---
>>  Documentation/riscv/patch-acceptance.rst | 8 +++++---
>>  1 file changed, 5 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/Documentation/riscv/patch-acceptance.rst b/Documentation/riscv/patch-acceptance.rst
>> index 8087718556da..08cb92324eaf 100644
>> --- a/Documentation/riscv/patch-acceptance.rst
>> +++ b/Documentation/riscv/patch-acceptance.rst
>> @@ -20,9 +20,11 @@ Submit Checklist Addendum
>>  -------------------------
>>  We'll only accept patches for new modules or extensions if the
>>  specifications for those modules or extensions are listed as being
>> -"Frozen" or "Ratified" by the RISC-V Foundation.  (Developers may, of
>> -course, maintain their own Linux kernel trees that contain code for
>> -any draft extensions that they wish.)
>> +unlikely to make incompatible changes in the future.  For
>> +specifications from the RISC-V foundation this means "Frozen" or
>> +"Ratified", for the UEFI specifications this means a published ECR.
>
> It would be good to explicitly mention "UEFI forum specifications"
> or
> UEFI/ACPI specifications.

Ya, "UEFI" is definately wrong.  I went with "UEFI forum 
specifications", I think that's likely the most accurate.

>
>> +(Developers may, of course, maintain their own Linux kernel trees that
>> +contain code for any draft extensions that they wish.)
>>
>>  Additionally, the RISC-V specification allows implementors to create
>>  their own custom extensions.  These custom extensions aren't required
>> --
>> 2.34.1
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> linux-riscv mailing list
>> linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org
>> http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-riscv
>
> Other than that, LGTM
>
> Reviewed-by: Atish Patra <atishp@rivosinc.com>
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diff --git a/Documentation/riscv/patch-acceptance.rst b/Documentation/riscv/patch-acceptance.rst
index 8087718556da..08cb92324eaf 100644
--- a/Documentation/riscv/patch-acceptance.rst
+++ b/Documentation/riscv/patch-acceptance.rst
@@ -20,9 +20,11 @@  Submit Checklist Addendum
 -------------------------
 We'll only accept patches for new modules or extensions if the
 specifications for those modules or extensions are listed as being
-"Frozen" or "Ratified" by the RISC-V Foundation.  (Developers may, of
-course, maintain their own Linux kernel trees that contain code for
-any draft extensions that they wish.)
+unlikely to make incompatible changes in the future.  For
+specifications from the RISC-V foundation this means "Frozen" or
+"Ratified", for the UEFI specifications this means a published ECR.
+(Developers may, of course, maintain their own Linux kernel trees that
+contain code for any draft extensions that they wish.)
 
 Additionally, the RISC-V specification allows implementors to create
 their own custom extensions.  These custom extensions aren't required