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On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 22:46:47 +0800 Qi Zheng <zhengqi.arch@bytedance.com> wrote: > Hi all, > > This patch series aims to make slab shrink lockless. What an awesome changelog. > 2. Survey > ========= Especially this part. Looking through all the prior efforts and at this patchset I am not immediately seeing any statements about the overall effect upon real-world workloads. For a good example, does this patchset measurably improve throughput or energy consumption on your servers?
On 2023/2/27 03:51, Andrew Morton wrote: > On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 22:46:47 +0800 Qi Zheng <zhengqi.arch@bytedance.com> wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> This patch series aims to make slab shrink lockless. > > What an awesome changelog. > >> 2. Survey >> ========= > > Especially this part. > > Looking through all the prior efforts and at this patchset I am not > immediately seeing any statements about the overall effect upon > real-world workloads. For a good example, does this patchset > measurably improve throughput or energy consumption on your servers? Hi Andrew, I re-tested with the following physical machines: Architecture: x86_64 CPU(s): 96 On-line CPU(s) list: 0-95 Model name: Intel(R) Xeon(R) Platinum 8260 CPU @ 2.40GHz I found that the reason for the hotspot I described in cover letter is wrong. The reason for the down_read_trylock() hotspot is not because of the failure to trylock, but simply because of the atomic operation (cmpxchg). And this will lead to a significant reduction in IPC (insn per cycle). To verify this, I did the following tests: 1. Run the following script to create down_read_trylock() hotspots: ``` #!/bin/bash DIR="/root/shrinker/memcg/mnt" do_create() { mkdir -p /sys/fs/cgroup/memory/test mkdir -p /sys/fs/cgroup/perf_event/test echo 4G > /sys/fs/cgroup/memory/test/memory.limit_in_bytes for i in `seq 0 $1`; do mkdir -p /sys/fs/cgroup/memory/test/$i; echo $$ > /sys/fs/cgroup/memory/test/$i/cgroup.procs; echo $$ > /sys/fs/cgroup/perf_event/test/cgroup.procs; mkdir -p $DIR/$i; done } do_mount() { for i in `seq $1 $2`; do mount -t tmpfs $i $DIR/$i; done } do_touch() { for i in `seq $1 $2`; do echo $$ > /sys/fs/cgroup/memory/test/$i/cgroup.procs; echo $$ > /sys/fs/cgroup/perf_event/test/cgroup.procs; dd if=/dev/zero of=$DIR/$i/file$i bs=1M count=1 & done } case "$1" in touch) do_touch $2 $3 ;; test) do_create 4000 do_mount 0 4000 do_touch 0 3000 ;; *) exit 1 ;; esac ``` Save the above script, then run test and touch commands. Then we can use the following perf command to view hotspots: perf top -U -F 999 1) Before applying this patchset: 32.31% [kernel] [k] down_read_trylock 19.40% [kernel] [k] pv_native_safe_halt 16.24% [kernel] [k] up_read 15.70% [kernel] [k] shrink_slab 4.69% [kernel] [k] _find_next_bit 2.62% [kernel] [k] shrink_node 1.78% [kernel] [k] shrink_lruvec 0.76% [kernel] [k] do_shrink_slab 2) After applying this patchset: 27.83% [kernel] [k] _find_next_bit 16.97% [kernel] [k] shrink_slab 15.82% [kernel] [k] pv_native_safe_halt 9.58% [kernel] [k] shrink_node 8.31% [kernel] [k] shrink_lruvec 5.64% [kernel] [k] do_shrink_slab 3.88% [kernel] [k] mem_cgroup_iter 2. At the same time, we use the following perf command to capture IPC information: perf stat -e cycles,instructions -G test -a --repeat 5 -- sleep 10 1) Before applying this patchset: Performance counter stats for 'system wide' (5 runs): 454187219766 cycles test ( +- 1.84% ) 78896433101 instructions test # 0.17 insn per cycle ( +- 0.44% ) 10.0020430 +- 0.0000366 seconds time elapsed ( +- 0.00% ) 2) After applying this patchset: Performance counter stats for 'system wide' (5 runs): 841954709443 cycles test ( +- 15.80% ) (98.69%) 527258677936 instructions test # 0.63 insn per cycle ( +- 15.11% ) (98.68%) 10.01064 +- 0.00831 seconds time elapsed ( +- 0.08% ) We can see that IPC drops very seriously when calling down_read_trylock() at high frequency. After using SRCU, the IPC is at a normal level. Thanks, Qi > >
Hi, On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 09:31:51PM +0800, Qi Zheng wrote: > > > On 2023/2/27 03:51, Andrew Morton wrote: > > On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 22:46:47 +0800 Qi Zheng <zhengqi.arch@bytedance.com> wrote: > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > This patch series aims to make slab shrink lockless. > > > > What an awesome changelog. > > > > > 2. Survey > > > ========= > > > > Especially this part. > > > > Looking through all the prior efforts and at this patchset I am not > > immediately seeing any statements about the overall effect upon > > real-world workloads. For a good example, does this patchset > > measurably improve throughput or energy consumption on your servers? > > Hi Andrew, > > I re-tested with the following physical machines: > > Architecture: x86_64 > CPU(s): 96 > On-line CPU(s) list: 0-95 > Model name: Intel(R) Xeon(R) Platinum 8260 CPU @ 2.40GHz > > I found that the reason for the hotspot I described in cover letter is > wrong. The reason for the down_read_trylock() hotspot is not because of > the failure to trylock, but simply because of the atomic operation > (cmpxchg). And this will lead to a significant reduction in IPC (insn > per cycle). ... > Then we can use the following perf command to view hotspots: > > perf top -U -F 999 > > 1) Before applying this patchset: > > 32.31% [kernel] [k] down_read_trylock > 19.40% [kernel] [k] pv_native_safe_halt > 16.24% [kernel] [k] up_read > 15.70% [kernel] [k] shrink_slab > 4.69% [kernel] [k] _find_next_bit > 2.62% [kernel] [k] shrink_node > 1.78% [kernel] [k] shrink_lruvec > 0.76% [kernel] [k] do_shrink_slab > > 2) After applying this patchset: > > 27.83% [kernel] [k] _find_next_bit > 16.97% [kernel] [k] shrink_slab > 15.82% [kernel] [k] pv_native_safe_halt > 9.58% [kernel] [k] shrink_node > 8.31% [kernel] [k] shrink_lruvec > 5.64% [kernel] [k] do_shrink_slab > 3.88% [kernel] [k] mem_cgroup_iter > > 2. At the same time, we use the following perf command to capture IPC > information: > > perf stat -e cycles,instructions -G test -a --repeat 5 -- sleep 10 > > 1) Before applying this patchset: > > Performance counter stats for 'system wide' (5 runs): > > 454187219766 cycles test ( > +- 1.84% ) > 78896433101 instructions test # 0.17 insn per > cycle ( +- 0.44% ) > > 10.0020430 +- 0.0000366 seconds time elapsed ( +- 0.00% ) > > 2) After applying this patchset: > > Performance counter stats for 'system wide' (5 runs): > > 841954709443 cycles test ( > +- 15.80% ) (98.69%) > 527258677936 instructions test # 0.63 insn per > cycle ( +- 15.11% ) (98.68%) > > 10.01064 +- 0.00831 seconds time elapsed ( +- 0.08% ) > > We can see that IPC drops very seriously when calling > down_read_trylock() at high frequency. After using SRCU, > the IPC is at a normal level. The results you present do show improvement in IPC for an artificial test script. But more interesting would be to see how a real world workloads benefit from your changes. > Thanks, > Qi
On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 09:31:51PM +0800, Qi Zheng wrote: > > > On 2023/2/27 03:51, Andrew Morton wrote: > > On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 22:46:47 +0800 Qi Zheng <zhengqi.arch@bytedance.com> wrote: > > > Save the above script, then run test and touch commands. > > Then we can use the following perf command to view hotspots: > > perf top -U -F 999 > > 1) Before applying this patchset: > > 32.31% [kernel] [k] down_read_trylock > 19.40% [kernel] [k] pv_native_safe_halt > 16.24% [kernel] [k] up_read > 15.70% [kernel] [k] shrink_slab > 4.69% [kernel] [k] _find_next_bit > 2.62% [kernel] [k] shrink_node > 1.78% [kernel] [k] shrink_lruvec > 0.76% [kernel] [k] do_shrink_slab > > 2) After applying this patchset: > > 27.83% [kernel] [k] _find_next_bit > 16.97% [kernel] [k] shrink_slab > 15.82% [kernel] [k] pv_native_safe_halt > 9.58% [kernel] [k] shrink_node > 8.31% [kernel] [k] shrink_lruvec > 5.64% [kernel] [k] do_shrink_slab > 3.88% [kernel] [k] mem_cgroup_iter Not opposing the intention of the patchset in any way (I actually think it's a good idea to make the shrinkers list lockless), but looking at both outputs above I think that the main problem is not the contention on the semaphore, but the reason of this contention. It seems like often there is a long list of shrinkers which barely can reclaim any memory, but we're calling them again and again. In order to achieve real wins with real-life workloads, I guess it's what we should optimize. Thanks!
On 27.02.2023 18:08, Mike Rapoport wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 09:31:51PM +0800, Qi Zheng wrote: >> >> >> On 2023/2/27 03:51, Andrew Morton wrote: >>> On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 22:46:47 +0800 Qi Zheng <zhengqi.arch@bytedance.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> This patch series aims to make slab shrink lockless. >>> >>> What an awesome changelog. >>> >>>> 2. Survey >>>> ========= >>> >>> Especially this part. >>> >>> Looking through all the prior efforts and at this patchset I am not >>> immediately seeing any statements about the overall effect upon >>> real-world workloads. For a good example, does this patchset >>> measurably improve throughput or energy consumption on your servers? >> >> Hi Andrew, >> >> I re-tested with the following physical machines: >> >> Architecture: x86_64 >> CPU(s): 96 >> On-line CPU(s) list: 0-95 >> Model name: Intel(R) Xeon(R) Platinum 8260 CPU @ 2.40GHz >> >> I found that the reason for the hotspot I described in cover letter is >> wrong. The reason for the down_read_trylock() hotspot is not because of >> the failure to trylock, but simply because of the atomic operation >> (cmpxchg). And this will lead to a significant reduction in IPC (insn >> per cycle). > > ... > >> Then we can use the following perf command to view hotspots: >> >> perf top -U -F 999 >> >> 1) Before applying this patchset: >> >> 32.31% [kernel] [k] down_read_trylock >> 19.40% [kernel] [k] pv_native_safe_halt >> 16.24% [kernel] [k] up_read >> 15.70% [kernel] [k] shrink_slab >> 4.69% [kernel] [k] _find_next_bit >> 2.62% [kernel] [k] shrink_node >> 1.78% [kernel] [k] shrink_lruvec >> 0.76% [kernel] [k] do_shrink_slab >> >> 2) After applying this patchset: >> >> 27.83% [kernel] [k] _find_next_bit >> 16.97% [kernel] [k] shrink_slab >> 15.82% [kernel] [k] pv_native_safe_halt >> 9.58% [kernel] [k] shrink_node >> 8.31% [kernel] [k] shrink_lruvec >> 5.64% [kernel] [k] do_shrink_slab >> 3.88% [kernel] [k] mem_cgroup_iter >> >> 2. At the same time, we use the following perf command to capture IPC >> information: >> >> perf stat -e cycles,instructions -G test -a --repeat 5 -- sleep 10 >> >> 1) Before applying this patchset: >> >> Performance counter stats for 'system wide' (5 runs): >> >> 454187219766 cycles test ( >> +- 1.84% ) >> 78896433101 instructions test # 0.17 insn per >> cycle ( +- 0.44% ) >> >> 10.0020430 +- 0.0000366 seconds time elapsed ( +- 0.00% ) >> >> 2) After applying this patchset: >> >> Performance counter stats for 'system wide' (5 runs): >> >> 841954709443 cycles test ( >> +- 15.80% ) (98.69%) >> 527258677936 instructions test # 0.63 insn per >> cycle ( +- 15.11% ) (98.68%) >> >> 10.01064 +- 0.00831 seconds time elapsed ( +- 0.08% ) >> >> We can see that IPC drops very seriously when calling >> down_read_trylock() at high frequency. After using SRCU, >> the IPC is at a normal level. > > The results you present do show improvement in IPC for an artificial test > script. But more interesting would be to see how a real world workloads > benefit from your changes. One of the real workloads from my experience is start of an overcommitted node containing many starting containers after node crash (or many resuming containers after reboot for kernel update). In these cases memory pressure is huge, and the node goes round in long reclaim. This patch patchset makes prealloc_memcg_shrinker() independent of do_shrink_slab(), so prealloc_memcg_shrinker() won't have to wait till shrink_slab_memcg() completes its current bit iteration, sees rwsem_is_contended() and the iteration breaks. Also, it's important to mention that currently we have the strange behavior: prealloc_memcg_shrinker() down_write(&shrinker_rwsem) idr_alloc() reclaim for each child memcg shrink_slab_memcg() down_read_trylock(&shrinker_rwsem) -> fail All the slab reclaim in this behavior is just a parasite work, and it just wastes our cpu time, which does not look a good design. Kirill
On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 10:20:59PM +0300, Kirill Tkhai wrote: > On 27.02.2023 18:08, Mike Rapoport wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 09:31:51PM +0800, Qi Zheng wrote: > >> > >> > >> On 2023/2/27 03:51, Andrew Morton wrote: > >>> On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 22:46:47 +0800 Qi Zheng <zhengqi.arch@bytedance.com> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Hi all, > >>>> > >>>> This patch series aims to make slab shrink lockless. > >>> > >>> What an awesome changelog. > >>> > >>>> 2. Survey > >>>> ========= > >>> > >>> Especially this part. > >>> > >>> Looking through all the prior efforts and at this patchset I am not > >>> immediately seeing any statements about the overall effect upon > >>> real-world workloads. For a good example, does this patchset > >>> measurably improve throughput or energy consumption on your servers? > >> > >> Hi Andrew, > >> > >> I re-tested with the following physical machines: > >> > >> Architecture: x86_64 > >> CPU(s): 96 > >> On-line CPU(s) list: 0-95 > >> Model name: Intel(R) Xeon(R) Platinum 8260 CPU @ 2.40GHz > >> > >> I found that the reason for the hotspot I described in cover letter is > >> wrong. The reason for the down_read_trylock() hotspot is not because of > >> the failure to trylock, but simply because of the atomic operation > >> (cmpxchg). And this will lead to a significant reduction in IPC (insn > >> per cycle). > > > > ... > > > >> Then we can use the following perf command to view hotspots: > >> > >> perf top -U -F 999 > >> > >> 1) Before applying this patchset: > >> > >> 32.31% [kernel] [k] down_read_trylock > >> 19.40% [kernel] [k] pv_native_safe_halt > >> 16.24% [kernel] [k] up_read > >> 15.70% [kernel] [k] shrink_slab > >> 4.69% [kernel] [k] _find_next_bit > >> 2.62% [kernel] [k] shrink_node > >> 1.78% [kernel] [k] shrink_lruvec > >> 0.76% [kernel] [k] do_shrink_slab > >> > >> 2) After applying this patchset: > >> > >> 27.83% [kernel] [k] _find_next_bit > >> 16.97% [kernel] [k] shrink_slab > >> 15.82% [kernel] [k] pv_native_safe_halt > >> 9.58% [kernel] [k] shrink_node > >> 8.31% [kernel] [k] shrink_lruvec > >> 5.64% [kernel] [k] do_shrink_slab > >> 3.88% [kernel] [k] mem_cgroup_iter > >> > >> 2. At the same time, we use the following perf command to capture IPC > >> information: > >> > >> perf stat -e cycles,instructions -G test -a --repeat 5 -- sleep 10 > >> > >> 1) Before applying this patchset: > >> > >> Performance counter stats for 'system wide' (5 runs): > >> > >> 454187219766 cycles test ( > >> +- 1.84% ) > >> 78896433101 instructions test # 0.17 insn per > >> cycle ( +- 0.44% ) > >> > >> 10.0020430 +- 0.0000366 seconds time elapsed ( +- 0.00% ) > >> > >> 2) After applying this patchset: > >> > >> Performance counter stats for 'system wide' (5 runs): > >> > >> 841954709443 cycles test ( > >> +- 15.80% ) (98.69%) > >> 527258677936 instructions test # 0.63 insn per > >> cycle ( +- 15.11% ) (98.68%) > >> > >> 10.01064 +- 0.00831 seconds time elapsed ( +- 0.08% ) > >> > >> We can see that IPC drops very seriously when calling > >> down_read_trylock() at high frequency. After using SRCU, > >> the IPC is at a normal level. > > > > The results you present do show improvement in IPC for an artificial test > > script. But more interesting would be to see how a real world workloads > > benefit from your changes. > > One of the real workloads from my experience is start of an overcommitted node > containing many starting containers after node crash (or many resuming containers > after reboot for kernel update). In these cases memory pressure is huge, and > the node goes round in long reclaim. > > This patch patchset makes prealloc_memcg_shrinker() independent of do_shrink_slab(), > so prealloc_memcg_shrinker() won't have to wait till shrink_slab_memcg() completes its > current bit iteration, sees rwsem_is_contended() and the iteration breaks. > > Also, it's important to mention that currently we have the strange behavior: > > prealloc_memcg_shrinker() > down_write(&shrinker_rwsem) > idr_alloc() > reclaim > for each child memcg > shrink_slab_memcg() > down_read_trylock(&shrinker_rwsem) -> fail But this can happen only if we get -ENOMEM in idr_alloc()? Doesn't seem to be a very hot path. Thanks!
On 27.02.2023 22:32, Roman Gushchin wrote: > On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 10:20:59PM +0300, Kirill Tkhai wrote: >> On 27.02.2023 18:08, Mike Rapoport wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 09:31:51PM +0800, Qi Zheng wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> On 2023/2/27 03:51, Andrew Morton wrote: >>>>> On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 22:46:47 +0800 Qi Zheng <zhengqi.arch@bytedance.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>> >>>>>> This patch series aims to make slab shrink lockless. >>>>> >>>>> What an awesome changelog. >>>>> >>>>>> 2. Survey >>>>>> ========= >>>>> >>>>> Especially this part. >>>>> >>>>> Looking through all the prior efforts and at this patchset I am not >>>>> immediately seeing any statements about the overall effect upon >>>>> real-world workloads. For a good example, does this patchset >>>>> measurably improve throughput or energy consumption on your servers? >>>> >>>> Hi Andrew, >>>> >>>> I re-tested with the following physical machines: >>>> >>>> Architecture: x86_64 >>>> CPU(s): 96 >>>> On-line CPU(s) list: 0-95 >>>> Model name: Intel(R) Xeon(R) Platinum 8260 CPU @ 2.40GHz >>>> >>>> I found that the reason for the hotspot I described in cover letter is >>>> wrong. The reason for the down_read_trylock() hotspot is not because of >>>> the failure to trylock, but simply because of the atomic operation >>>> (cmpxchg). And this will lead to a significant reduction in IPC (insn >>>> per cycle). >>> >>> ... >>> >>>> Then we can use the following perf command to view hotspots: >>>> >>>> perf top -U -F 999 >>>> >>>> 1) Before applying this patchset: >>>> >>>> 32.31% [kernel] [k] down_read_trylock >>>> 19.40% [kernel] [k] pv_native_safe_halt >>>> 16.24% [kernel] [k] up_read >>>> 15.70% [kernel] [k] shrink_slab >>>> 4.69% [kernel] [k] _find_next_bit >>>> 2.62% [kernel] [k] shrink_node >>>> 1.78% [kernel] [k] shrink_lruvec >>>> 0.76% [kernel] [k] do_shrink_slab >>>> >>>> 2) After applying this patchset: >>>> >>>> 27.83% [kernel] [k] _find_next_bit >>>> 16.97% [kernel] [k] shrink_slab >>>> 15.82% [kernel] [k] pv_native_safe_halt >>>> 9.58% [kernel] [k] shrink_node >>>> 8.31% [kernel] [k] shrink_lruvec >>>> 5.64% [kernel] [k] do_shrink_slab >>>> 3.88% [kernel] [k] mem_cgroup_iter >>>> >>>> 2. At the same time, we use the following perf command to capture IPC >>>> information: >>>> >>>> perf stat -e cycles,instructions -G test -a --repeat 5 -- sleep 10 >>>> >>>> 1) Before applying this patchset: >>>> >>>> Performance counter stats for 'system wide' (5 runs): >>>> >>>> 454187219766 cycles test ( >>>> +- 1.84% ) >>>> 78896433101 instructions test # 0.17 insn per >>>> cycle ( +- 0.44% ) >>>> >>>> 10.0020430 +- 0.0000366 seconds time elapsed ( +- 0.00% ) >>>> >>>> 2) After applying this patchset: >>>> >>>> Performance counter stats for 'system wide' (5 runs): >>>> >>>> 841954709443 cycles test ( >>>> +- 15.80% ) (98.69%) >>>> 527258677936 instructions test # 0.63 insn per >>>> cycle ( +- 15.11% ) (98.68%) >>>> >>>> 10.01064 +- 0.00831 seconds time elapsed ( +- 0.08% ) >>>> >>>> We can see that IPC drops very seriously when calling >>>> down_read_trylock() at high frequency. After using SRCU, >>>> the IPC is at a normal level. >>> >>> The results you present do show improvement in IPC for an artificial test >>> script. But more interesting would be to see how a real world workloads >>> benefit from your changes. >> >> One of the real workloads from my experience is start of an overcommitted node >> containing many starting containers after node crash (or many resuming containers >> after reboot for kernel update). In these cases memory pressure is huge, and >> the node goes round in long reclaim. >> >> This patch patchset makes prealloc_memcg_shrinker() independent of do_shrink_slab(), >> so prealloc_memcg_shrinker() won't have to wait till shrink_slab_memcg() completes its >> current bit iteration, sees rwsem_is_contended() and the iteration breaks. >> >> Also, it's important to mention that currently we have the strange behavior: >> >> prealloc_memcg_shrinker() >> down_write(&shrinker_rwsem) >> idr_alloc() >> reclaim >> for each child memcg >> shrink_slab_memcg() >> down_read_trylock(&shrinker_rwsem) -> fail > > But this can happen only if we get -ENOMEM in idr_alloc()? > Doesn't seem to be a very hot path. There is not only idr_alloc(), but expand_shrinker_info() too. The last is more heavier. But despite that, yes, it's not a hot path. The memory pressure on overcommited node start I described above is a regular situation. There are lots of register_shrinker() contending with reclaim.
On 2023/2/27 23:08, Mike Rapoport wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 09:31:51PM +0800, Qi Zheng wrote: >> >> >> On 2023/2/27 03:51, Andrew Morton wrote: >>> On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 22:46:47 +0800 Qi Zheng <zhengqi.arch@bytedance.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> This patch series aims to make slab shrink lockless. >>> >>> What an awesome changelog. >>> >>>> 2. Survey >>>> ========= >>> >>> Especially this part. >>> >>> Looking through all the prior efforts and at this patchset I am not >>> immediately seeing any statements about the overall effect upon >>> real-world workloads. For a good example, does this patchset >>> measurably improve throughput or energy consumption on your servers? >> >> Hi Andrew, >> >> I re-tested with the following physical machines: >> >> Architecture: x86_64 >> CPU(s): 96 >> On-line CPU(s) list: 0-95 >> Model name: Intel(R) Xeon(R) Platinum 8260 CPU @ 2.40GHz >> >> I found that the reason for the hotspot I described in cover letter is >> wrong. The reason for the down_read_trylock() hotspot is not because of >> the failure to trylock, but simply because of the atomic operation >> (cmpxchg). And this will lead to a significant reduction in IPC (insn >> per cycle). > > ... > >> Then we can use the following perf command to view hotspots: >> >> perf top -U -F 999 >> >> 1) Before applying this patchset: >> >> 32.31% [kernel] [k] down_read_trylock >> 19.40% [kernel] [k] pv_native_safe_halt >> 16.24% [kernel] [k] up_read >> 15.70% [kernel] [k] shrink_slab >> 4.69% [kernel] [k] _find_next_bit >> 2.62% [kernel] [k] shrink_node >> 1.78% [kernel] [k] shrink_lruvec >> 0.76% [kernel] [k] do_shrink_slab >> >> 2) After applying this patchset: >> >> 27.83% [kernel] [k] _find_next_bit >> 16.97% [kernel] [k] shrink_slab >> 15.82% [kernel] [k] pv_native_safe_halt >> 9.58% [kernel] [k] shrink_node >> 8.31% [kernel] [k] shrink_lruvec >> 5.64% [kernel] [k] do_shrink_slab >> 3.88% [kernel] [k] mem_cgroup_iter >> >> 2. At the same time, we use the following perf command to capture IPC >> information: >> >> perf stat -e cycles,instructions -G test -a --repeat 5 -- sleep 10 >> >> 1) Before applying this patchset: >> >> Performance counter stats for 'system wide' (5 runs): >> >> 454187219766 cycles test ( >> +- 1.84% ) >> 78896433101 instructions test # 0.17 insn per >> cycle ( +- 0.44% ) >> >> 10.0020430 +- 0.0000366 seconds time elapsed ( +- 0.00% ) >> >> 2) After applying this patchset: >> >> Performance counter stats for 'system wide' (5 runs): >> >> 841954709443 cycles test ( >> +- 15.80% ) (98.69%) >> 527258677936 instructions test # 0.63 insn per >> cycle ( +- 15.11% ) (98.68%) >> >> 10.01064 +- 0.00831 seconds time elapsed ( +- 0.08% ) >> >> We can see that IPC drops very seriously when calling >> down_read_trylock() at high frequency. After using SRCU, >> the IPC is at a normal level. > > The results you present do show improvement in IPC for an artificial test > script. But more interesting would be to see how a real world workloads > benefit from your changes. Hi Mike and Andrew, I did encounter this problem under the real workload of our online server. At the end of this email, I posted another call stack and hot spot that I found before. I scanned the hotspots of all our online servers yesterday and today, but unfortunately did not find the live environment. Some of our servers have a large number of containers, and each container will mount some file systems. This is likely to trigger down_read_trylock() hotspots when the memory pressure of the whole machine or the memory pressure of memcg is high. So I just found a physical server with a similar configuration to the online server yesterday for a simulation test. The call stack and the hot spot in the simulation test are almost exactly the same, so in theory, when such a hot spot appears on the online server, we can also enjoy the improvement of IPC. This will improve the performance of the server in memory exhaustion scenarios (memcg or global level). And the above scenario is only one aspect, and the other aspect is the lock competition scenario mentioned by Kirill. After applying this patch set, slab shrink and register_shrinker() can be completely parallelized, which can fix that problem. These are the two main benefits for real workloads that I consider. Thanks, Qi call stack ---------- @[ down_read_trylock+1 shrink_slab+128 shrink_node+371 do_try_to_free_pages+232 try_to_free_pages+243 _alloc_pages_slowpath+771 _alloc_pages_nodemask+702 pagecache_get_page+255 filemap_fault+1361 ext4_filemap_fault+44 __do_fault+76 handle_mm_fault+3543 do_user_addr_fault+442 do_page_fault+48 page_fault+62 ]: 1161690 @[ down_read_trylock+1 shrink_slab+128 shrink_node+371 balance_pgdat+690 kswapd+389 kthread+246 ret_from_fork+31 ]: 8424884 @[ down_read_trylock+1 shrink_slab+128 shrink_node+371 do_try_to_free_pages+232 try_to_free_pages+243 __alloc_pages_slowpath+771 __alloc_pages_nodemask+702 __do_page_cache_readahead+244 filemap_fault+1674 ext4_filemap_fault+44 __do_fault+76 handle_mm_fault+3543 do_user_addr_fault+442 do_page_fault+48 page_fault+62 ]: 20917631 hotspot ------- 52.22% [kernel] [k] down_read_trylock 19.60% [kernel] [k] up_read 8.86% [kernel] [k] shrink_slab 2.44% [kernel] [k] idr_find 1.25% [kernel] [k] count_shadow_nodes 1.18% [kernel] [k] shrink lruvec 0.71% [kernel] [k] mem_cgroup_iter 0.71% [kernel] [k] shrink_node 0.55% [kernel] [k] find_next_bit > >> Thanks, >> Qi >
On 2023/2/28 03:20, Kirill Tkhai wrote: > On 27.02.2023 18:08, Mike Rapoport wrote: >> Hi, >> >> On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 09:31:51PM +0800, Qi Zheng wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 2023/2/27 03:51, Andrew Morton wrote: >>>> On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 22:46:47 +0800 Qi Zheng <zhengqi.arch@bytedance.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> This patch series aims to make slab shrink lockless. >>>> >>>> What an awesome changelog. >>>> >>>>> 2. Survey >>>>> ========= >>>> >>>> Especially this part. >>>> >>>> Looking through all the prior efforts and at this patchset I am not >>>> immediately seeing any statements about the overall effect upon >>>> real-world workloads. For a good example, does this patchset >>>> measurably improve throughput or energy consumption on your servers? >>> >>> Hi Andrew, >>> >>> I re-tested with the following physical machines: >>> >>> Architecture: x86_64 >>> CPU(s): 96 >>> On-line CPU(s) list: 0-95 >>> Model name: Intel(R) Xeon(R) Platinum 8260 CPU @ 2.40GHz >>> >>> I found that the reason for the hotspot I described in cover letter is >>> wrong. The reason for the down_read_trylock() hotspot is not because of >>> the failure to trylock, but simply because of the atomic operation >>> (cmpxchg). And this will lead to a significant reduction in IPC (insn >>> per cycle). >> >> ... >> >>> Then we can use the following perf command to view hotspots: >>> >>> perf top -U -F 999 >>> >>> 1) Before applying this patchset: >>> >>> 32.31% [kernel] [k] down_read_trylock >>> 19.40% [kernel] [k] pv_native_safe_halt >>> 16.24% [kernel] [k] up_read >>> 15.70% [kernel] [k] shrink_slab >>> 4.69% [kernel] [k] _find_next_bit >>> 2.62% [kernel] [k] shrink_node >>> 1.78% [kernel] [k] shrink_lruvec >>> 0.76% [kernel] [k] do_shrink_slab >>> >>> 2) After applying this patchset: >>> >>> 27.83% [kernel] [k] _find_next_bit >>> 16.97% [kernel] [k] shrink_slab >>> 15.82% [kernel] [k] pv_native_safe_halt >>> 9.58% [kernel] [k] shrink_node >>> 8.31% [kernel] [k] shrink_lruvec >>> 5.64% [kernel] [k] do_shrink_slab >>> 3.88% [kernel] [k] mem_cgroup_iter >>> >>> 2. At the same time, we use the following perf command to capture IPC >>> information: >>> >>> perf stat -e cycles,instructions -G test -a --repeat 5 -- sleep 10 >>> >>> 1) Before applying this patchset: >>> >>> Performance counter stats for 'system wide' (5 runs): >>> >>> 454187219766 cycles test ( >>> +- 1.84% ) >>> 78896433101 instructions test # 0.17 insn per >>> cycle ( +- 0.44% ) >>> >>> 10.0020430 +- 0.0000366 seconds time elapsed ( +- 0.00% ) >>> >>> 2) After applying this patchset: >>> >>> Performance counter stats for 'system wide' (5 runs): >>> >>> 841954709443 cycles test ( >>> +- 15.80% ) (98.69%) >>> 527258677936 instructions test # 0.63 insn per >>> cycle ( +- 15.11% ) (98.68%) >>> >>> 10.01064 +- 0.00831 seconds time elapsed ( +- 0.08% ) >>> >>> We can see that IPC drops very seriously when calling >>> down_read_trylock() at high frequency. After using SRCU, >>> the IPC is at a normal level. >> >> The results you present do show improvement in IPC for an artificial test >> script. But more interesting would be to see how a real world workloads >> benefit from your changes. > > One of the real workloads from my experience is start of an overcommitted node > containing many starting containers after node crash (or many resuming containers > after reboot for kernel update). In these cases memory pressure is huge, and > the node goes round in long reclaim. Thanks a lot for providing this real workload! :) > > This patch patchset makes prealloc_memcg_shrinker() independent of do_shrink_slab(), > so prealloc_memcg_shrinker() won't have to wait till shrink_slab_memcg() completes its > current bit iteration, sees rwsem_is_contended() and the iteration breaks. > > Also, it's important to mention that currently we have the strange behavior: > > prealloc_memcg_shrinker() > down_write(&shrinker_rwsem) > idr_alloc() > reclaim > for each child memcg > shrink_slab_memcg() > down_read_trylock(&shrinker_rwsem) -> fail > > All the slab reclaim in this behavior is just a parasite work, and it just wastes > our cpu time, which does not look a good design. > > Kirill
On 2023/2/28 03:02, Roman Gushchin wrote: > On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 09:31:51PM +0800, Qi Zheng wrote: >> >> >> On 2023/2/27 03:51, Andrew Morton wrote: >>> On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 22:46:47 +0800 Qi Zheng <zhengqi.arch@bytedance.com> wrote: >>> >> Save the above script, then run test and touch commands. >> >> Then we can use the following perf command to view hotspots: >> >> perf top -U -F 999 >> >> 1) Before applying this patchset: >> >> 32.31% [kernel] [k] down_read_trylock >> 19.40% [kernel] [k] pv_native_safe_halt >> 16.24% [kernel] [k] up_read >> 15.70% [kernel] [k] shrink_slab >> 4.69% [kernel] [k] _find_next_bit >> 2.62% [kernel] [k] shrink_node >> 1.78% [kernel] [k] shrink_lruvec >> 0.76% [kernel] [k] do_shrink_slab >> >> 2) After applying this patchset: >> >> 27.83% [kernel] [k] _find_next_bit >> 16.97% [kernel] [k] shrink_slab >> 15.82% [kernel] [k] pv_native_safe_halt >> 9.58% [kernel] [k] shrink_node >> 8.31% [kernel] [k] shrink_lruvec >> 5.64% [kernel] [k] do_shrink_slab >> 3.88% [kernel] [k] mem_cgroup_iter > > Not opposing the intention of the patchset in any way (I actually think > it's a good idea to make the shrinkers list lockless), but looking at > both outputs above I think that the main problem is not the contention on > the semaphore, but the reason of this contention. Yes, in the above scenario, there is indeed no lock contention problem. > > It seems like often there is a long list of shrinkers which barely > can reclaim any memory, but we're calling them again and again. > In order to achieve real wins with real-life workloads, I guess > it's what we should optimize. > > Thanks!
On 2023/2/28 18:04, Qi Zheng wrote: > > > On 2023/2/27 23:08, Mike Rapoport wrote: >> Hi, >> >> On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 09:31:51PM +0800, Qi Zheng wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 2023/2/27 03:51, Andrew Morton wrote: >>>> On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 22:46:47 +0800 Qi Zheng >>>> <zhengqi.arch@bytedance.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> This patch series aims to make slab shrink lockless. >>>> >>>> What an awesome changelog. >>>> >>>>> 2. Survey >>>>> ========= >>>> >>>> Especially this part. >>>> >>>> Looking through all the prior efforts and at this patchset I am not >>>> immediately seeing any statements about the overall effect upon >>>> real-world workloads. For a good example, does this patchset >>>> measurably improve throughput or energy consumption on your servers? >>> >>> Hi Andrew, >>> >>> I re-tested with the following physical machines: >>> >>> Architecture: x86_64 >>> CPU(s): 96 >>> On-line CPU(s) list: 0-95 >>> Model name: Intel(R) Xeon(R) Platinum 8260 CPU @ 2.40GHz >>> >>> I found that the reason for the hotspot I described in cover letter is >>> wrong. The reason for the down_read_trylock() hotspot is not because of >>> the failure to trylock, but simply because of the atomic operation >>> (cmpxchg). And this will lead to a significant reduction in IPC (insn >>> per cycle). >> >> ... >>> Then we can use the following perf command to view hotspots: >>> >>> perf top -U -F 999 >>> >>> 1) Before applying this patchset: >>> >>> 32.31% [kernel] [k] down_read_trylock >>> 19.40% [kernel] [k] pv_native_safe_halt >>> 16.24% [kernel] [k] up_read >>> 15.70% [kernel] [k] shrink_slab >>> 4.69% [kernel] [k] _find_next_bit >>> 2.62% [kernel] [k] shrink_node >>> 1.78% [kernel] [k] shrink_lruvec >>> 0.76% [kernel] [k] do_shrink_slab >>> >>> 2) After applying this patchset: >>> >>> 27.83% [kernel] [k] _find_next_bit >>> 16.97% [kernel] [k] shrink_slab >>> 15.82% [kernel] [k] pv_native_safe_halt >>> 9.58% [kernel] [k] shrink_node >>> 8.31% [kernel] [k] shrink_lruvec >>> 5.64% [kernel] [k] do_shrink_slab >>> 3.88% [kernel] [k] mem_cgroup_iter >>> >>> 2. At the same time, we use the following perf command to capture IPC >>> information: >>> >>> perf stat -e cycles,instructions -G test -a --repeat 5 -- sleep 10 >>> >>> 1) Before applying this patchset: >>> >>> Performance counter stats for 'system wide' (5 runs): >>> >>> 454187219766 cycles >>> test ( >>> +- 1.84% ) >>> 78896433101 instructions test # 0.17 >>> insn per >>> cycle ( +- 0.44% ) >>> >>> 10.0020430 +- 0.0000366 seconds time elapsed ( +- 0.00% ) >>> >>> 2) After applying this patchset: >>> >>> Performance counter stats for 'system wide' (5 runs): >>> >>> 841954709443 cycles >>> test ( >>> +- 15.80% ) (98.69%) >>> 527258677936 instructions test # 0.63 >>> insn per >>> cycle ( +- 15.11% ) (98.68%) >>> >>> 10.01064 +- 0.00831 seconds time elapsed ( +- 0.08% ) >>> >>> We can see that IPC drops very seriously when calling >>> down_read_trylock() at high frequency. After using SRCU, >>> the IPC is at a normal level. >> >> The results you present do show improvement in IPC for an artificial test >> script. But more interesting would be to see how a real world workloads >> benefit from your changes. > > Hi Mike and Andrew, > > I did encounter this problem under the real workload of our online > server. At the end of this email, I posted another call stack and > hot spot that I found before. > > I scanned the hotspots of all our online servers yesterday and today, > but unfortunately did not find the live environment. > > Some of our servers have a large number of containers, and each > container will mount some file systems. This is likely to trigger > down_read_trylock() hotspots when the memory pressure of the whole > machine or the memory pressure of memcg is high. And the servers where this hotspot has happened (we have a hotspot alarm record), basically have 96 cores, or 128 cores or even more. > > So I just found a physical server with a similar configuration to the > online server yesterday for a simulation test. The call stack and the > hot spot in the simulation test are almost exactly the same, so in > theory, when such a hot spot appears on the online server, we can also > enjoy the improvement of IPC. This will improve the performance of the > server in memory exhaustion scenarios (memcg or global level). > > And the above scenario is only one aspect, and the other aspect is the > lock competition scenario mentioned by Kirill. After applying this patch > set, slab shrink and register_shrinker() can be completely parallelized, > which can fix that problem. > > These are the two main benefits for real workloads that I consider. > > Thanks, > Qi > > call stack > ---------- > > @[ > down_read_trylock+1 > shrink_slab+128 > shrink_node+371 > do_try_to_free_pages+232 > try_to_free_pages+243 > _alloc_pages_slowpath+771 > _alloc_pages_nodemask+702 > pagecache_get_page+255 > filemap_fault+1361 > ext4_filemap_fault+44 > __do_fault+76 > handle_mm_fault+3543 > do_user_addr_fault+442 > do_page_fault+48 > page_fault+62 > ]: 1161690 > @[ > down_read_trylock+1 > shrink_slab+128 > shrink_node+371 > balance_pgdat+690 > kswapd+389 > kthread+246 > ret_from_fork+31 > ]: 8424884 > @[ > down_read_trylock+1 > shrink_slab+128 > shrink_node+371 > do_try_to_free_pages+232 > try_to_free_pages+243 > __alloc_pages_slowpath+771 > __alloc_pages_nodemask+702 > __do_page_cache_readahead+244 > filemap_fault+1674 > ext4_filemap_fault+44 > __do_fault+76 > handle_mm_fault+3543 > do_user_addr_fault+442 > do_page_fault+48 > page_fault+62 > ]: 20917631 > > hotspot > ------- > > 52.22% [kernel] [k] down_read_trylock > 19.60% [kernel] [k] up_read > 8.86% [kernel] [k] shrink_slab > 2.44% [kernel] [k] idr_find > 1.25% [kernel] [k] count_shadow_nodes > 1.18% [kernel] [k] shrink lruvec > 0.71% [kernel] [k] mem_cgroup_iter > 0.71% [kernel] [k] shrink_node > 0.55% [kernel] [k] find_next_bit > > >>> Thanks, >>> Qi >> >
On Mon 27-02-23 17:08:30, Mike Rapoport wrote: [...] > The results you present do show improvement in IPC for an artificial test > script. But more interesting would be to see how a real world workloads > benefit from your changes. It's been quite some time ago (2018ish) when we have seen bug report where mount got stalled when racing with memory reclaim. This was nasty because the said mount was a part of login chain and users simply had to wait for a long time to get loged in in that particular deployment. The mount was blocked on a shrinker registration and the reclaim was stalled in a slab shrinker IIRC. I do not remember all the details but the underlying problem was that a shrinker callback took a long time because there were too many objects to scan or it had to sync with other fs operation. I believe we ended up using Minchan's break out from slab shrinking if the shrinker semaphore was contended and that helped to some degree but there were still some corner cases where a single slab shrinker could take a noticeable amount of time. In general using a "big" lock like shrinker_rwsem from the reclaim and potentially block many unrelated subsystems that just want to register or unregister shrinkers is a potential source of hard to predict problems. So this is a very welcome change.
On 2023/3/1 02:40, Michal Hocko wrote: > On Mon 27-02-23 17:08:30, Mike Rapoport wrote: > [...] >> The results you present do show improvement in IPC for an artificial test >> script. But more interesting would be to see how a real world workloads >> benefit from your changes. > > It's been quite some time ago (2018ish) when we have seen bug report > where mount got stalled when racing with memory reclaim. This was > nasty because the said mount was a part of login chain and users simply > had to wait for a long time to get loged in in that particular > deployment. > > The mount was blocked on a shrinker registration and the reclaim was > stalled in a slab shrinker IIRC. I do not remember all the details but > the underlying problem was that a shrinker callback took a long time > because there were too many objects to scan or it had to sync with other > fs operation. I believe we ended up using Minchan's break out from slab > shrinking if the shrinker semaphore was contended and that helped to > some degree but there were still some corner cases where a single slab > shrinker could take a noticeable amount of time. > > In general using a "big" lock like shrinker_rwsem from the reclaim and > potentially block many unrelated subsystems that just want to register > or unregister shrinkers is a potential source of hard to predict > problems. So this is a very welcome change. Totally agree. :) Thanks, Qi