Message ID | cover.1691788036.git.falcon@tinylab.org (mailing list archive) |
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Headers | show |
Series | tools/nolibc: fix up size inflat regression | expand |
On Sat, Aug 12, 2023 at 05:49:36AM +0800, Zhangjin Wu wrote: > After these two patches, will send the proposed my_syscall() patchset > tomorrow, it can even further reduce more type conversions and therefore > reduce more binary bytes, here is a preview of the testing result: > > // with the coming my_syscall() patchset, sys_* from functionsn to macros > i386: 160 test(s): 158 passed, 2 skipped, 0 failed => status: warning 19250 > x86_64: 160 test(s): 158 passed, 2 skipped, 0 failed => status: warning 21733 (...) > It can also shrink the whole sys.h from 1171 lines to around 738 lines. Please, Zhangjin, please. Let's stop constantly speaking about potential future improvements when the present is broken. It needlessly adds a lot of noise in the discussion and tends to encourage you to explore areas that are incompatible with what is required to fix the breakage, and very likely steers your approach to fixes in a direction that you think is compatible with such future paths. But as long as existing code is broken you cannot speculate on how better the next iteration will be, because it's built on a broken basis. And I would like to remind that the *only* reason for the current breakage is this attempt to save even more code lines, that was not a requirement at all in the first place! Sure it can be fine to remove code when possible, but not at the cost of trying to force squares to enter round holes like this. The reality is that *some* syscalls are different and *some* archs are different, and these differences have to be taken into account, and if we keep exceptions it's fine. So let's only speak about this later once the issue is completely solved. Thanks, Willy
Hi, Willy > On Sat, Aug 12, 2023 at 05:49:36AM +0800, Zhangjin Wu wrote: > > After these two patches, will send the proposed my_syscall() patchset > > tomorrow, it can even further reduce more type conversions and therefore > > reduce more binary bytes, here is a preview of the testing result: > > > > // with the coming my_syscall() patchset, sys_* from functionsn to macros > > i386: 160 test(s): 158 passed, 2 skipped, 0 failed => status: warning 19250 > > x86_64: 160 test(s): 158 passed, 2 skipped, 0 failed => status: warning 21733 > (...) > > It can also shrink the whole sys.h from 1171 lines to around 738 lines. > > Please, Zhangjin, please. Let's stop constantly speaking about potential > future improvements when the present is broken. It needlessly adds a lot > of noise in the discussion and tends to encourage you to explore areas > that are incompatible with what is required to fix the breakage, and > very likely steers your approach to fixes in a direction that you think > is compatible with such future paths. But as long as existing code is > broken you cannot speculate on how better the next iteration will be, > because it's built on a broken basis. And I would like to remind that > the *only* reason for the current breakage is this attempt to save even > more code lines, that was not a requirement at all in the first place! > Sure it can be fine to remove code when possible, but not at the cost of > trying to force squares to enter round holes like this. The reality is > that *some* syscalls are different and *some* archs are different, and > these differences have to be taken into account, and if we keep exceptions > it's fine. > Agree very much, that's why I didn't send the new patchset but only send these two ones about size inflate regression, I don't want to discuss more than one issue at a time either (and you also have shared this idea several times) ;-) The progress and preview data here is only because the patch 1/2 [1] is an important preparation of the new patchset, the data here is more or less providing a selling point why we need patch 1/2, I have explained it in this reply [2]. Of course, we can roll them back directly, and If we do need sys_brk/mmap return 'long', we can revert the rolling-back and apply patch 1/2. [PATCH v6 1/2] tools/nolibc: let sys_brk, sys_mmap and sys_mmap2 return long > So let's only speak about this later once the issue is completely solved. > Ok, it is the right direction. Best regards, Zhangjin --- [1]: https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/82b584cbda5cee8d5318986644a2a64ba749a098.1691788036.git.falcon@tinylab.org/ [2]: https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20230813132620.19411-1-falcon@tinylab.org/ > Thanks, > Willy