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On Wed, 20 Sep 2023 14:18:46 +0800 Huang Ying <ying.huang@intel.com> wrote: > The page allocation performance requirements of different workloads > are often different. So, we need to tune the PCP (Per-CPU Pageset) > high on each CPU automatically to optimize the page allocation > performance. Some of the performance changes here are downright scary. I've never been very sure that percpu pages was very beneficial (and hey, I invented the thing back in the Mesozoic era). But these numbers make me think it's very important and we should have been paying more attention. > The list of patches in series is as follows, > > 1 mm, pcp: avoid to drain PCP when process exit > 2 cacheinfo: calculate per-CPU data cache size > 3 mm, pcp: reduce lock contention for draining high-order pages > 4 mm: restrict the pcp batch scale factor to avoid too long latency > 5 mm, page_alloc: scale the number of pages that are batch allocated > 6 mm: add framework for PCP high auto-tuning > 7 mm: tune PCP high automatically > 8 mm, pcp: decrease PCP high if free pages < high watermark > 9 mm, pcp: avoid to reduce PCP high unnecessarily > 10 mm, pcp: reduce detecting time of consecutive high order page freeing > > Patch 1/2/3 optimize the PCP draining for consecutive high-order pages > freeing. > > Patch 4/5 optimize batch freeing and allocating. > > Patch 6/7/8/9 implement and optimize a PCP high auto-tuning method. > > Patch 10 optimize the PCP draining for consecutive high order page > freeing based on PCP high auto-tuning. > > The test results for patches with performance impact are as follows, > > kbuild > ====== > > On a 2-socket Intel server with 224 logical CPU, we tested kbuild on > one socket with `make -j 112`. > > build time zone lock% free_high alloc_zone > ---------- ---------- --------- ---------- > base 100.0 43.6 100.0 100.0 > patch1 96.6 40.3 49.2 95.2 > patch3 96.4 40.5 11.3 95.1 > patch5 96.1 37.9 13.3 96.8 > patch7 86.4 9.8 6.2 22.0 > patch9 85.9 9.4 4.8 16.3 > patch10 87.7 12.6 29.0 32.3 You're seriously saying that kbuild got 12% faster? I see that [07/10] (autotuning) alone sped up kbuild by 10%? Other thoughts: - What if any facilities are provided to permit users/developers to monitor the operation of the autotuning algorithm? - I'm not seeing any Documentation/ updates. Surely there are things we can tell users? - This: : It's possible that PCP high auto-tuning doesn't work well for some : workloads. So, when PCP high is tuned by hand via the sysctl knob, : the auto-tuning will be disabled. The PCP high set by hand will be : used instead. Is it a bit hacky to disable autotuning when the user alters pcp-high? Would it be cleaner to have a separate on/off knob for autotuning? And how is the user to determine that "PCP high auto-tuning doesn't work well" for their workload?
Hi, Andrew, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org> writes: > On Wed, 20 Sep 2023 14:18:46 +0800 Huang Ying <ying.huang@intel.com> wrote: > >> The page allocation performance requirements of different workloads >> are often different. So, we need to tune the PCP (Per-CPU Pageset) >> high on each CPU automatically to optimize the page allocation >> performance. > > Some of the performance changes here are downright scary. > > I've never been very sure that percpu pages was very beneficial (and > hey, I invented the thing back in the Mesozoic era). But these numbers > make me think it's very important and we should have been paying more > attention. > >> The list of patches in series is as follows, >> >> 1 mm, pcp: avoid to drain PCP when process exit >> 2 cacheinfo: calculate per-CPU data cache size >> 3 mm, pcp: reduce lock contention for draining high-order pages >> 4 mm: restrict the pcp batch scale factor to avoid too long latency >> 5 mm, page_alloc: scale the number of pages that are batch allocated >> 6 mm: add framework for PCP high auto-tuning >> 7 mm: tune PCP high automatically >> 8 mm, pcp: decrease PCP high if free pages < high watermark >> 9 mm, pcp: avoid to reduce PCP high unnecessarily >> 10 mm, pcp: reduce detecting time of consecutive high order page freeing >> >> Patch 1/2/3 optimize the PCP draining for consecutive high-order pages >> freeing. >> >> Patch 4/5 optimize batch freeing and allocating. >> >> Patch 6/7/8/9 implement and optimize a PCP high auto-tuning method. >> >> Patch 10 optimize the PCP draining for consecutive high order page >> freeing based on PCP high auto-tuning. >> >> The test results for patches with performance impact are as follows, >> >> kbuild >> ====== >> >> On a 2-socket Intel server with 224 logical CPU, we tested kbuild on >> one socket with `make -j 112`. >> >> build time zone lock% free_high alloc_zone >> ---------- ---------- --------- ---------- >> base 100.0 43.6 100.0 100.0 >> patch1 96.6 40.3 49.2 95.2 >> patch3 96.4 40.5 11.3 95.1 >> patch5 96.1 37.9 13.3 96.8 >> patch7 86.4 9.8 6.2 22.0 >> patch9 85.9 9.4 4.8 16.3 >> patch10 87.7 12.6 29.0 32.3 > > You're seriously saying that kbuild got 12% faster? > > I see that [07/10] (autotuning) alone sped up kbuild by 10%? Thank you very much for questioning! I double-checked the my test results and configuration and found that I used an uncommon configuration. So the description of the test should have been, On a 2-socket Intel server with 224 logical CPU, we tested kbuild with `numactl -m 1 -- make -j 112`. This will make processes running on socket 0 to use the normal zone of socket 1. The remote accessing to zone->lock cause heavy lock contention. I apologize for any confusing caused by the above test results. If we test kbuild with `make -j 224` on the machine, the test results becomes, build time lock% free_high alloc_zone ---------- ---------- --------- ---------- base 100.0 16.8 100.0 100.0 patch5 99.2 13.9 9.5 97.0 patch7 98.5 5.4 4.8 19.2 Although lock contention cycles%, draining PCP for high order freeing, and allocating from zone reduces greatly, the build time almost doesn't change. We also tested kbuild in the following way, created 8 cgroup, and run `make -j 28` in each cgroup. That is, the total parallel is same, but LRU lock contention can be eliminated via cgroup. And, the single-process link stage take less proportion to the parallel compiling stage. This isn't common for personal usage. But it can be used by something like 0Day kbuild service. The test result is as follows, build time lock% free_high alloc_zone ---------- ---------- --------- ---------- base 100.0 14.2 100.0 100.0 patch5 98.5 8.5 8.1 97.1 patch7 95.0 0.7 3.0 19.0 The lock contention cycles% reduces to nearly 0, because LRU lock contention is eliminated too. The build time reduction becomes visible too. We will continue to do a full test with this configuration. > Other thoughts: > > - What if any facilities are provided to permit users/developers to > monitor the operation of the autotuning algorithm? /proc/zoneinfo can be used to observe PCP high and count for each CPU. > - I'm not seeing any Documentation/ updates. Surely there are things > we can tell users? I will think about that. > - This: > > : It's possible that PCP high auto-tuning doesn't work well for some > : workloads. So, when PCP high is tuned by hand via the sysctl knob, > : the auto-tuning will be disabled. The PCP high set by hand will be > : used instead. > > Is it a bit hacky to disable autotuning when the user alters > pcp-high? Would it be cleaner to have a separate on/off knob for > autotuning? This was suggested by Mel Gormon, https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/20230714140710.5xbesq6xguhcbyvi@techsingularity.net/ " I'm not opposed to having an adaptive pcp->high in concept. I think it would be best to disable adaptive tuning if percpu_pagelist_high_fraction is set though. I expect that users of that tunable are rare and that if it *is* used that there is a very good reason for it. " Do you think that this is reasonable? > And how is the user to determine that "PCP high auto-tuning doesn't work > well" for their workload? One way is to check the perf profiling results. If there is heavy zone lock contention, the PCP high auto-tuning doesn't work well enough to eliminate the zone lock contention. Users may try to tune PCP high by hand. -- Best Regards, Huang, Ying
On Thu, 21 Sep 2023 21:32:35 +0800 "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com> wrote: > > : It's possible that PCP high auto-tuning doesn't work well for some > > : workloads. So, when PCP high is tuned by hand via the sysctl knob, > > : the auto-tuning will be disabled. The PCP high set by hand will be > > : used instead. > > > > Is it a bit hacky to disable autotuning when the user alters > > pcp-high? Would it be cleaner to have a separate on/off knob for > > autotuning? > > This was suggested by Mel Gormon, > > https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/20230714140710.5xbesq6xguhcbyvi@techsingularity.net/ > > " > I'm not opposed to having an adaptive pcp->high in concept. I think it would > be best to disable adaptive tuning if percpu_pagelist_high_fraction is set > though. I expect that users of that tunable are rare and that if it *is* > used that there is a very good reason for it. > " > > Do you think that this is reasonable? I suppose so, if it's documented! Documentation/admin-guide/sysctl/vm.rst describes percpu_pagelist_high_fraction.
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org> writes: > On Thu, 21 Sep 2023 21:32:35 +0800 "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com> wrote: > >> > : It's possible that PCP high auto-tuning doesn't work well for some >> > : workloads. So, when PCP high is tuned by hand via the sysctl knob, >> > : the auto-tuning will be disabled. The PCP high set by hand will be >> > : used instead. >> > >> > Is it a bit hacky to disable autotuning when the user alters >> > pcp-high? Would it be cleaner to have a separate on/off knob for >> > autotuning? >> >> This was suggested by Mel Gormon, >> >> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/20230714140710.5xbesq6xguhcbyvi@techsingularity.net/ >> >> " >> I'm not opposed to having an adaptive pcp->high in concept. I think it would >> be best to disable adaptive tuning if percpu_pagelist_high_fraction is set >> though. I expect that users of that tunable are rare and that if it *is* >> used that there is a very good reason for it. >> " >> >> Do you think that this is reasonable? > > I suppose so, if it's documented! > > Documentation/admin-guide/sysctl/vm.rst describes > percpu_pagelist_high_fraction. Sure. Will add document about auto-tuning behavior in the above document. -- Best Regards, Huang, Ying
On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 09:41:18AM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote: > On Wed, 20 Sep 2023 14:18:46 +0800 Huang Ying <ying.huang@intel.com> wrote: > > > The page allocation performance requirements of different workloads > > are often different. So, we need to tune the PCP (Per-CPU Pageset) > > high on each CPU automatically to optimize the page allocation > > performance. > > Some of the performance changes here are downright scary. > > I've never been very sure that percpu pages was very beneficial (and > hey, I invented the thing back in the Mesozoic era). But these numbers > make me think it's very important and we should have been paying more > attention. > FWIW, it is because not only does it avoid lock contention issues, it avoids excessive splitting/merging of buddies as well as the slower paths of the allocator. It is not very satisfactory and frankly, the whole page allocator needs a revisit to account for very large zones but it is far from a trivial project. PCP just masks the worst of the issues and replacing it is far harder than tweaking it. > > The list of patches in series is as follows, > > > > 1 mm, pcp: avoid to drain PCP when process exit > > 2 cacheinfo: calculate per-CPU data cache size > > 3 mm, pcp: reduce lock contention for draining high-order pages > > 4 mm: restrict the pcp batch scale factor to avoid too long latency > > 5 mm, page_alloc: scale the number of pages that are batch allocated > > 6 mm: add framework for PCP high auto-tuning > > 7 mm: tune PCP high automatically > > 8 mm, pcp: decrease PCP high if free pages < high watermark > > 9 mm, pcp: avoid to reduce PCP high unnecessarily > > 10 mm, pcp: reduce detecting time of consecutive high order page freeing > > > > Patch 1/2/3 optimize the PCP draining for consecutive high-order pages > > freeing. > > > > Patch 4/5 optimize batch freeing and allocating. > > > > Patch 6/7/8/9 implement and optimize a PCP high auto-tuning method. > > > > Patch 10 optimize the PCP draining for consecutive high order page > > freeing based on PCP high auto-tuning. > > > > The test results for patches with performance impact are as follows, > > > > kbuild > > ====== > > > > On a 2-socket Intel server with 224 logical CPU, we tested kbuild on > > one socket with `make -j 112`. > > > > build time zone lock% free_high alloc_zone > > ---------- ---------- --------- ---------- > > base 100.0 43.6 100.0 100.0 > > patch1 96.6 40.3 49.2 95.2 > > patch3 96.4 40.5 11.3 95.1 > > patch5 96.1 37.9 13.3 96.8 > > patch7 86.4 9.8 6.2 22.0 > > patch9 85.9 9.4 4.8 16.3 > > patch10 87.7 12.6 29.0 32.3 > > You're seriously saying that kbuild got 12% faster? > > I see that [07/10] (autotuning) alone sped up kbuild by 10%? > > Other thoughts: > > - What if any facilities are provided to permit users/developers to > monitor the operation of the autotuning algorithm? > Not that I've seen yet but I'm still in part of the series. It could be monitored with tracepoints but it can also be inferred from lock contention issue. I think it would only be meaningful to developers to monitor this closely, at least that's what I think now. Honestly, I'm more worried about potential changes in behaviour depending on the exact CPU and cache implementation than I am about being able to actively monitor it. > - I'm not seeing any Documentation/ updates. Surely there are things > we can tell users? > > - This: > > : It's possible that PCP high auto-tuning doesn't work well for some > : workloads. So, when PCP high is tuned by hand via the sysctl knob, > : the auto-tuning will be disabled. The PCP high set by hand will be > : used instead. > > Is it a bit hacky to disable autotuning when the user alters > pcp-high? Would it be cleaner to have a separate on/off knob for > autotuning? > It might be but tuning the allocator is very specific and once we introduce that tunable, we're probably stuck with it. I would prefer to see it introduced if and only if we have to. > And how is the user to determine that "PCP high auto-tuning doesn't work > well" for their workload? Not easily. It may manifest as variable lock contention issues when the workload is at a steady state but that would increase the pressure to split the allocator away from being zone-based entirely instead of tweaking PCP further.