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[v1,2/4] acpi/x86: s2idle: handle screen off/on calls outside of suspend sequence

Message ID 20240919171952.403745-3-lkml@antheas.dev (mailing list archive)
State Changes Requested, archived
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Series acpi/x86: s2idle: move Display off/on calls outside suspend (fixes ROG Ally suspend) | expand

Commit Message

Antheas Kapenekakis Sept. 19, 2024, 5:19 p.m. UTC
Currently, the screen off/on calls are handled within the suspend
sequence, which is a deviation from Windows. This causes issues with
certain devices, such as the ROG Ally, which expects this call to be
executed with the kernel fully awake. The subsequent half-suspended
state makes the controller of the device to fail to suspend properly.

This patch calls the screen off/on callbacks before entering the suspend
sequence, which fixes this issue. In addition, it opens the possibility
of modelling a state such as "Screen Off" that mirrors Windows, as the
callbacks will be accessible and validated to work outside of the
suspend sequence.

Signed-off-by: Antheas Kapenekakis <lkml@antheas.dev>
---
 kernel/power/suspend.c | 16 ++++++++++++++++
 1 file changed, 16 insertions(+)

Comments

Mario Limonciello Sept. 19, 2024, 5:35 p.m. UTC | #1
+dri-devel

For those joining late; this is the full series for context.

https://lore.kernel.org/linux-pm/20240919171952.403745-1-lkml@antheas.dev/T/#maee308be5349d8df25c8ccf12144ea96bbd4cbbd

On 9/19/2024 12:19, Antheas Kapenekakis wrote:
> Currently, the screen off/on calls are handled within the suspend
> sequence, which is a deviation from Windows. This causes issues with
> certain devices, such as the ROG Ally, which expects this call to be
> executed with the kernel fully awake. The subsequent half-suspended
> state makes the controller of the device to fail to suspend properly.
> 
> This patch calls the screen off/on callbacks before entering the suspend
> sequence, which fixes this issue. In addition, it opens the possibility
> of modelling a state such as "Screen Off" that mirrors Windows, as the
> callbacks will be accessible and validated to work outside of the
> suspend sequence.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Antheas Kapenekakis <lkml@antheas.dev>
> ---
>   kernel/power/suspend.c | 16 ++++++++++++++++
>   1 file changed, 16 insertions(+)
> 
> diff --git a/kernel/power/suspend.c b/kernel/power/suspend.c
> index 19734b297527..afa95271ef00 100644
> --- a/kernel/power/suspend.c
> +++ b/kernel/power/suspend.c
> @@ -507,6 +507,19 @@ int suspend_devices_and_enter(suspend_state_t state)
>   
>   	pm_suspend_target_state = state;
>   
> +	/*
> +	 * Linux does not have the concept of a "Screen Off" state, so call
> +	 * the platform functions for screen off prior to beginning the suspend
> +	 * sequence, mirroring Windows which calls them outside of it as well.
> +	 *
> +	 * If Linux ever gains a "Screen Off" state, the following callbacks can
> +	 * be replaced with a call that checks if we are in "Screen Off", in which
> +	 * case they will NOOP and if not call them as a fallback.
> +	 */
> +	error = platform_suspend_screen_off();

It's a bit muddy; but I wonder if calling 
drm_atomic_helper_disable_all() makes sense here.

> +	if (error)
> +		goto Screen_on;
> +
>   	if (state == PM_SUSPEND_TO_IDLE)
>   		pm_set_suspend_no_platform();
>   
> @@ -540,6 +553,9 @@ int suspend_devices_and_enter(suspend_state_t state)
>    Close:
>   	platform_resume_end(state);
>   	pm_suspend_target_state = PM_SUSPEND_ON;
> +
> + Screen_on:
> +	platform_suspend_screen_on();

The problem with my suggestion above is what would you put here for 
symmetry?  drm_atomic_helper_resume() doesn't look right to me.

Maybe it's a no-op from DRM perspective and the drivers handle it.

>   	return error;
>   
>    Recover_platform:
Alex Deucher Sept. 19, 2024, 6:21 p.m. UTC | #2
On Thu, Sep 19, 2024 at 1:35 PM Mario Limonciello
<mario.limonciello@amd.com> wrote:
>
> +dri-devel
>
> For those joining late; this is the full series for context.
>
> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-pm/20240919171952.403745-1-lkml@antheas.dev/T/#maee308be5349d8df25c8ccf12144ea96bbd4cbbd
>
> On 9/19/2024 12:19, Antheas Kapenekakis wrote:
> > Currently, the screen off/on calls are handled within the suspend
> > sequence, which is a deviation from Windows. This causes issues with
> > certain devices, such as the ROG Ally, which expects this call to be
> > executed with the kernel fully awake. The subsequent half-suspended
> > state makes the controller of the device to fail to suspend properly.
> >
> > This patch calls the screen off/on callbacks before entering the suspend
> > sequence, which fixes this issue. In addition, it opens the possibility
> > of modelling a state such as "Screen Off" that mirrors Windows, as the
> > callbacks will be accessible and validated to work outside of the
> > suspend sequence.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Antheas Kapenekakis <lkml@antheas.dev>
> > ---
> >   kernel/power/suspend.c | 16 ++++++++++++++++
> >   1 file changed, 16 insertions(+)
> >
> > diff --git a/kernel/power/suspend.c b/kernel/power/suspend.c
> > index 19734b297527..afa95271ef00 100644
> > --- a/kernel/power/suspend.c
> > +++ b/kernel/power/suspend.c
> > @@ -507,6 +507,19 @@ int suspend_devices_and_enter(suspend_state_t state)
> >
> >       pm_suspend_target_state = state;
> >
> > +     /*
> > +      * Linux does not have the concept of a "Screen Off" state, so call
> > +      * the platform functions for screen off prior to beginning the suspend
> > +      * sequence, mirroring Windows which calls them outside of it as well.
> > +      *
> > +      * If Linux ever gains a "Screen Off" state, the following callbacks can
> > +      * be replaced with a call that checks if we are in "Screen Off", in which
> > +      * case they will NOOP and if not call them as a fallback.
> > +      */
> > +     error = platform_suspend_screen_off();
>
> It's a bit muddy; but I wonder if calling
> drm_atomic_helper_disable_all() makes sense here.

I think we either want to call this after devices have suspended or
it's something the drm drivers would call themselves once they have
turned off the displays as part of their suspend handling.

>
> > +     if (error)
> > +             goto Screen_on;
> > +
> >       if (state == PM_SUSPEND_TO_IDLE)
> >               pm_set_suspend_no_platform();
> >
> > @@ -540,6 +553,9 @@ int suspend_devices_and_enter(suspend_state_t state)
> >    Close:
> >       platform_resume_end(state);
> >       pm_suspend_target_state = PM_SUSPEND_ON;
> > +
> > + Screen_on:
> > +     platform_suspend_screen_on();
>
> The problem with my suggestion above is what would you put here for
> symmetry?  drm_atomic_helper_resume() doesn't look right to me.
>
> Maybe it's a no-op from DRM perspective and the drivers handle it.

if suspend is aborted, this should be called after devices resume or
from the relevant drm drivers.

The question is whether platforms with multiple GPUs care whether all
GPUs have their displays off or if just the integrated GPU matters.
Maybe after all PCI display class devices have suspended?

Alex

>
> >       return error;
> >
> >    Recover_platform:
>
Mario Limonciello Sept. 19, 2024, 6:32 p.m. UTC | #3
On 9/19/2024 13:21, Alex Deucher wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 19, 2024 at 1:35 PM Mario Limonciello
> <mario.limonciello@amd.com> wrote:
>>
>> +dri-devel
>>
>> For those joining late; this is the full series for context.
>>
>> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-pm/20240919171952.403745-1-lkml@antheas.dev/T/#maee308be5349d8df25c8ccf12144ea96bbd4cbbd
>>
>> On 9/19/2024 12:19, Antheas Kapenekakis wrote:
>>> Currently, the screen off/on calls are handled within the suspend
>>> sequence, which is a deviation from Windows. This causes issues with
>>> certain devices, such as the ROG Ally, which expects this call to be
>>> executed with the kernel fully awake. The subsequent half-suspended
>>> state makes the controller of the device to fail to suspend properly.
>>>
>>> This patch calls the screen off/on callbacks before entering the suspend
>>> sequence, which fixes this issue. In addition, it opens the possibility
>>> of modelling a state such as "Screen Off" that mirrors Windows, as the
>>> callbacks will be accessible and validated to work outside of the
>>> suspend sequence.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Antheas Kapenekakis <lkml@antheas.dev>
>>> ---
>>>    kernel/power/suspend.c | 16 ++++++++++++++++
>>>    1 file changed, 16 insertions(+)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/kernel/power/suspend.c b/kernel/power/suspend.c
>>> index 19734b297527..afa95271ef00 100644
>>> --- a/kernel/power/suspend.c
>>> +++ b/kernel/power/suspend.c
>>> @@ -507,6 +507,19 @@ int suspend_devices_and_enter(suspend_state_t state)
>>>
>>>        pm_suspend_target_state = state;
>>>
>>> +     /*
>>> +      * Linux does not have the concept of a "Screen Off" state, so call
>>> +      * the platform functions for screen off prior to beginning the suspend
>>> +      * sequence, mirroring Windows which calls them outside of it as well.
>>> +      *
>>> +      * If Linux ever gains a "Screen Off" state, the following callbacks can
>>> +      * be replaced with a call that checks if we are in "Screen Off", in which
>>> +      * case they will NOOP and if not call them as a fallback.
>>> +      */
>>> +     error = platform_suspend_screen_off();
>>
>> It's a bit muddy; but I wonder if calling
>> drm_atomic_helper_disable_all() makes sense here.
> 
> I think we either want to call this after devices have suspended or
> it's something the drm drivers would call themselves once they have
> turned off the displays as part of their suspend handling.

Well the DRM devices do call drm_atomic_helper_disable_all() already as 
part of the sequence.

I had what I thought was a more logical way to approach this done in 
this PoC:

https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/superm1/linux.git/commit/?h=superm1/dsm-screen-on-off&id=db65ddd1c745108e0ad42fe613f5d2c1146ed3d9

But from the testing Luke and Antheas have done this doesn't work or 
change things.  It's still "too late" in the sequence.

> 
>>
>>> +     if (error)
>>> +             goto Screen_on;
>>> +
>>>        if (state == PM_SUSPEND_TO_IDLE)
>>>                pm_set_suspend_no_platform();
>>>
>>> @@ -540,6 +553,9 @@ int suspend_devices_and_enter(suspend_state_t state)
>>>     Close:
>>>        platform_resume_end(state);
>>>        pm_suspend_target_state = PM_SUSPEND_ON;
>>> +
>>> + Screen_on:
>>> +     platform_suspend_screen_on();
>>
>> The problem with my suggestion above is what would you put here for
>> symmetry?  drm_atomic_helper_resume() doesn't look right to me.
>>
>> Maybe it's a no-op from DRM perspective and the drivers handle it.
> 
> if suspend is aborted, this should be called after devices resume or
> from the relevant drm drivers.
> 
> The question is whether platforms with multiple GPUs care whether all
> GPUs have their displays off or if just the integrated GPU matters.
> Maybe after all PCI display class devices have suspended?

 From what Luke has told me about this problem unfortunately there's a 
nuanced "ordering problem" with a difference between Windows and Linux
at play here.

Asus does $STUFF in this _DSM screen off callback with assumptions about 
what happens next in the Windows suspend sequence.  Luke can talk more 
about these assumptions; he's studied it in HEAVY detail.

Before this series the order of events on the way down was like this:

(devices suspend)
(LPS0 screen off)
(LPS0 modern standby)
(LPS0 low power)

On resume it was:

(LPS0 exit low power)
(LPS0 exit modern standby)
(LPS0 screen on)
(devices resume)

What this series is "aiming" to do is move the LPS0 screen off and on to 
the very beginning of the suspend and screen on to the very end of resume.

The way it's done right now; it's got nothing to actually do with DRM. 
It would just be so much more logical to me if we really tied a _DSM 
screen off call with screens being off...
Antheas Kapenekakis Sept. 19, 2024, 6:35 p.m. UTC | #4
Hi,
as noted in the cover letter, I think the connection to DRM is a red herring.

The Display off callback in Windows is always called 5 seconds after
the screen turns off due to inactivity or instantly if the user
presses the power button. Likewise, Display on is called when the
display is about to turn on.

In fact, pressing the powerbutton in Windows no longer suspends the
device. It just locks the session and turns off the screen. Then
Windows can do whatever it wants for however long it wants before
suspending the device. It took me 2 days to realise this, as my dev
unit was updating and it stayed happily on for 10-20 minutes after
pressing the power button when connected to a charger.

I think "Screen Off" is what Microsoft decided to call their
background wakelock state (as it is called in Android). That means
that if there is ever a laptop with an Always On display, it will be
on the "Screen Off" state while the screen is on.

Antheas
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Patch

diff --git a/kernel/power/suspend.c b/kernel/power/suspend.c
index 19734b297527..afa95271ef00 100644
--- a/kernel/power/suspend.c
+++ b/kernel/power/suspend.c
@@ -507,6 +507,19 @@  int suspend_devices_and_enter(suspend_state_t state)
 
 	pm_suspend_target_state = state;
 
+	/*
+	 * Linux does not have the concept of a "Screen Off" state, so call
+	 * the platform functions for screen off prior to beginning the suspend
+	 * sequence, mirroring Windows which calls them outside of it as well.
+	 *
+	 * If Linux ever gains a "Screen Off" state, the following callbacks can
+	 * be replaced with a call that checks if we are in "Screen Off", in which
+	 * case they will NOOP and if not call them as a fallback.
+	 */
+	error = platform_suspend_screen_off();
+	if (error)
+		goto Screen_on;
+
 	if (state == PM_SUSPEND_TO_IDLE)
 		pm_set_suspend_no_platform();
 
@@ -540,6 +553,9 @@  int suspend_devices_and_enter(suspend_state_t state)
  Close:
 	platform_resume_end(state);
 	pm_suspend_target_state = PM_SUSPEND_ON;
+
+ Screen_on:
+	platform_suspend_screen_on();
 	return error;
 
  Recover_platform: