| Message ID | 20220130093433.8319-1-linkinjeon@kernel.org (mailing list archive) |
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| Series | [1/3] ksmbd: reduce smb direct max read/write size | expand |
On 1/30/2022 4:34 AM, Namjae Jeon wrote: > To support RDMA in chelsio NICs, Reduce smb direct read/write size > to about 512KB. With this change, we have checked that a single buffer > descriptor was sent from Windows client, and intel X722 was operated at > that size. I am guessing that the larger payload required a fast-register of a page count which was larger than the adapter supports? Can you provide more detail? Also, what exactly does "single buffer descriptor from Windows client" mean, and why is it relevant? Confused, Tom. > Signed-off-by: Namjae Jeon <linkinjeon@kernel.org> > --- > fs/ksmbd/transport_rdma.c | 2 +- > 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-) > > diff --git a/fs/ksmbd/transport_rdma.c b/fs/ksmbd/transport_rdma.c > index 3c1ec1ac0b27..ba5a22bc2e6d 100644 > --- a/fs/ksmbd/transport_rdma.c > +++ b/fs/ksmbd/transport_rdma.c > @@ -80,7 +80,7 @@ static int smb_direct_max_fragmented_recv_size = 1024 * 1024; > /* The maximum single-message size which can be received */ > static int smb_direct_max_receive_size = 8192; > > -static int smb_direct_max_read_write_size = 1048512; > +static int smb_direct_max_read_write_size = 524224; > > static int smb_direct_max_outstanding_rw_ops = 8; >
2022-01-31 4:04 GMT+09:00, Tom Talpey <tom@talpey.com>: > On 1/30/2022 4:34 AM, Namjae Jeon wrote: >> To support RDMA in chelsio NICs, Reduce smb direct read/write size >> to about 512KB. With this change, we have checked that a single buffer >> descriptor was sent from Windows client, and intel X722 was operated at >> that size. > > I am guessing that the larger payload required a fast-register of a page > count which was larger than the adapter supports? Can you provide more > detail? Windows client can send multiple Buffer Descriptor V1 structure elements to server. ksmbd server doesn't support it yet. So it can handle only single element. We have known that Windows sends multiple elements according to the size of smb direct max read/write size. For Melanox adapters, 1MB size, and Chelsea O, 512KB seems to be the threshold. I thought that windows would send a single buffer descriptor element when setting the adapter's max_fast_reg_page_list_len value to read/write size, but it was not. chelsio's max_fast_reg_page_list_len: 128 mellanox's max_fast_reg_page_list_len: 511 I don't know exactly what factor Windows client uses to send multiple elements. Even in MS-SMB2, It is not described. So I am trying to set the minimum read/write size until multiple elements handling is supported. > > Also, what exactly does "single buffer descriptor from Windows client" > mean, and why is it relevant? Windows can send an array of one or more Buffer Descriptor V1 structures, i.e. multiple elements. Currently, ksmbd can handle only one Buffer Descriptor V1 structure element. If there's anything I've missed, please let me know. > > Confused, > Tom. Thanks! > >> Signed-off-by: Namjae Jeon <linkinjeon@kernel.org> >> --- >> fs/ksmbd/transport_rdma.c | 2 +- >> 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-) >> >> diff --git a/fs/ksmbd/transport_rdma.c b/fs/ksmbd/transport_rdma.c >> index 3c1ec1ac0b27..ba5a22bc2e6d 100644 >> --- a/fs/ksmbd/transport_rdma.c >> +++ b/fs/ksmbd/transport_rdma.c >> @@ -80,7 +80,7 @@ static int smb_direct_max_fragmented_recv_size = 1024 * >> 1024; >> /* The maximum single-message size which can be received */ >> static int smb_direct_max_receive_size = 8192; >> >> -static int smb_direct_max_read_write_size = 1048512; >> +static int smb_direct_max_read_write_size = 524224; >> >> static int smb_direct_max_outstanding_rw_ops = 8; >> >
On 1/30/2022 8:07 PM, Namjae Jeon wrote: > 2022-01-31 4:04 GMT+09:00, Tom Talpey <tom@talpey.com>: >> On 1/30/2022 4:34 AM, Namjae Jeon wrote: >>> To support RDMA in chelsio NICs, Reduce smb direct read/write size >>> to about 512KB. With this change, we have checked that a single buffer >>> descriptor was sent from Windows client, and intel X722 was operated at >>> that size. >> >> I am guessing that the larger payload required a fast-register of a page >> count which was larger than the adapter supports? Can you provide more >> detail? > Windows client can send multiple Buffer Descriptor V1 structure > elements to server. > ksmbd server doesn't support it yet. So it can handle only single element. Oh! So it's a bug in ksmbd which isn't supporting the protocol. Presumably this will be fixed in the future, and this patch would be reversed. In any case, the smaller size is purely a workaround which permits it to interoperate with the Windows client. It's not actually a fix, and has nothing fundamentally to do with Chelsio or Intel NICs. The patch needs to say these. How about "ksmbd does not support more than one Buffer Descriptor V1 element in an smbdirect protocol request. Reducing the maximum read/write size to about 512KB allows interoperability with Windows over a wider variety of RDMA NICs, as an interim workaround." > We have known that Windows sends multiple elements according to the > size of smb direct max read/write size. For Melanox adapters, 1MB > size, and Chelsea O, 512KB seems to be the threshold. I thought that > windows would send a single buffer descriptor element when setting the > adapter's max_fast_reg_page_list_len value to read/write size, but it > was not. > chelsio's max_fast_reg_page_list_len: 128 > mellanox's max_fast_reg_page_list_len: 511 > I don't know exactly what factor Windows client uses to send multiple > elements. Even in MS-SMB2, It is not described. So I am trying to set > the minimum read/write size until multiple elements handling is > supported. The protocol documents are about the protocol, and they intentionally avoid specifying the behavior of each implementation. You could ask the dochelp folks, but you may not get a clear answer, because as you can see, "it depends" :) In practice, a client will probably try to pack as many pages into a single registration (memory handle) as possible. This will depend on the memory layout, the adapter capabilities, and the way the client was actually coded (fast-register has very different requirements from other memreg models). I take it the Linux smbdirect client does not trigger this issue? Is there some reason you can't currently support multiple descriptors? Or is it simply deferred for now? Tom. >> Also, what exactly does "single buffer descriptor from Windows client" >> mean, and why is it relevant? > Windows can send an array of one or more Buffer Descriptor V1 > structures, i.e. multiple elements. Currently, ksmbd can handle only > one Buffer Descriptor V1 structure element. > > If there's anything I've missed, please let me know. >> >> Confused, >> Tom. > Thanks! >> >>> Signed-off-by: Namjae Jeon <linkinjeon@kernel.org> >>> --- >>> fs/ksmbd/transport_rdma.c | 2 +- >>> 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-) >>> >>> diff --git a/fs/ksmbd/transport_rdma.c b/fs/ksmbd/transport_rdma.c >>> index 3c1ec1ac0b27..ba5a22bc2e6d 100644 >>> --- a/fs/ksmbd/transport_rdma.c >>> +++ b/fs/ksmbd/transport_rdma.c >>> @@ -80,7 +80,7 @@ static int smb_direct_max_fragmented_recv_size = 1024 * >>> 1024; >>> /* The maximum single-message size which can be received */ >>> static int smb_direct_max_receive_size = 8192; >>> >>> -static int smb_direct_max_read_write_size = 1048512; >>> +static int smb_direct_max_read_write_size = 524224; >>> >>> static int smb_direct_max_outstanding_rw_ops = 8; >>> >> >
2022-01-31 12:18 GMT+09:00, Tom Talpey <tom@talpey.com>: > On 1/30/2022 8:07 PM, Namjae Jeon wrote: >> 2022-01-31 4:04 GMT+09:00, Tom Talpey <tom@talpey.com>: >>> On 1/30/2022 4:34 AM, Namjae Jeon wrote: >>>> To support RDMA in chelsio NICs, Reduce smb direct read/write size >>>> to about 512KB. With this change, we have checked that a single buffer >>>> descriptor was sent from Windows client, and intel X722 was operated at >>>> that size. >>> >>> I am guessing that the larger payload required a fast-register of a page >>> count which was larger than the adapter supports? Can you provide more >>> detail? >> Windows client can send multiple Buffer Descriptor V1 structure >> elements to server. >> ksmbd server doesn't support it yet. So it can handle only single >> element. > > Oh! So it's a bug in ksmbd which isn't supporting the protocol. > Presumably this will be fixed in the future, and this patch > would be reversed. Right. Work to support it is in progress, Need the time to complete it. > > In any case, the smaller size is purely a workaround which permits > it to interoperate with the Windows client. It's not actually a fix, > and has nothing fundamentally to do with Chelsio or Intel NICs. Right. > > The patch needs to say these. How about > > "ksmbd does not support more than one Buffer Descriptor V1 element in > an smbdirect protocol request. Reducing the maximum read/write size to > about 512KB allows interoperability with Windows over a wider variety > of RDMA NICs, as an interim workaround." Thanks:) I will update patch description. > >> We have known that Windows sends multiple elements according to the >> size of smb direct max read/write size. For Melanox adapters, 1MB >> size, and Chelsea O, 512KB seems to be the threshold. I thought that >> windows would send a single buffer descriptor element when setting the >> adapter's max_fast_reg_page_list_len value to read/write size, but it >> was not. >> chelsio's max_fast_reg_page_list_len: 128 >> mellanox's max_fast_reg_page_list_len: 511 >> I don't know exactly what factor Windows client uses to send multiple >> elements. Even in MS-SMB2, It is not described. So I am trying to set >> the minimum read/write size until multiple elements handling is >> supported. > > The protocol documents are about the protocol, and they intentionally > avoid specifying the behavior of each implementation. You could ask > the dochelp folks, but you may not get a clear answer, because as > you can see, "it depends" :) Okay. > > In practice, a client will probably try to pack as many pages into > a single registration (memory handle) as possible. This will depend > on the memory layout, the adapter capabilities, and the way the > client was actually coded (fast-register has very different requirements > from other memreg models). I take it the Linux smbdirect client does > not trigger this issue? Yes, Because linux smbdirect client send one Buffer Descriptor V1 element:) So there is no issue between linux smbdirect client and ksmbd. > > Is there some reason you can't currently support multiple descriptors? > Or is it simply deferred for now? smbdirect codes of ksmbd are referenced from the linux cifs client's one. and we found that windows client could send more than one element later. It is in progress. I want that ksmbd work RDMA with Windows over a wider variety of RDMA NICs in the meantime. Thanks! > > Tom. > >>> Also, what exactly does "single buffer descriptor from Windows client" >>> mean, and why is it relevant? >> Windows can send an array of one or more Buffer Descriptor V1 >> structures, i.e. multiple elements. Currently, ksmbd can handle only >> one Buffer Descriptor V1 structure element. >> >> If there's anything I've missed, please let me know. >>> >>> Confused, >>> Tom. >> Thanks! >>> >>>> Signed-off-by: Namjae Jeon <linkinjeon@kernel.org> >>>> --- >>>> fs/ksmbd/transport_rdma.c | 2 +- >>>> 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-) >>>> >>>> diff --git a/fs/ksmbd/transport_rdma.c b/fs/ksmbd/transport_rdma.c >>>> index 3c1ec1ac0b27..ba5a22bc2e6d 100644 >>>> --- a/fs/ksmbd/transport_rdma.c >>>> +++ b/fs/ksmbd/transport_rdma.c >>>> @@ -80,7 +80,7 @@ static int smb_direct_max_fragmented_recv_size = 1024 >>>> * >>>> 1024; >>>> /* The maximum single-message size which can be received */ >>>> static int smb_direct_max_receive_size = 8192; >>>> >>>> -static int smb_direct_max_read_write_size = 1048512; >>>> +static int smb_direct_max_read_write_size = 524224; >>>> >>>> static int smb_direct_max_outstanding_rw_ops = 8; >>>> >>> >> >
diff --git a/fs/ksmbd/transport_rdma.c b/fs/ksmbd/transport_rdma.c index 3c1ec1ac0b27..ba5a22bc2e6d 100644 --- a/fs/ksmbd/transport_rdma.c +++ b/fs/ksmbd/transport_rdma.c @@ -80,7 +80,7 @@ static int smb_direct_max_fragmented_recv_size = 1024 * 1024; /* The maximum single-message size which can be received */ static int smb_direct_max_receive_size = 8192; -static int smb_direct_max_read_write_size = 1048512; +static int smb_direct_max_read_write_size = 524224; static int smb_direct_max_outstanding_rw_ops = 8;
To support RDMA in chelsio NICs, Reduce smb direct read/write size to about 512KB. With this change, we have checked that a single buffer descriptor was sent from Windows client, and intel X722 was operated at that size. Signed-off-by: Namjae Jeon <linkinjeon@kernel.org> --- fs/ksmbd/transport_rdma.c | 2 +- 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)