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[v2,61/66] dt-bindings: media: Add Allwinner A31 ISP bindings documentation

Message ID 20220205185429.2278860-62-paul.kocialkowski@bootlin.com
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Series Allwinner A31/A83T MIPI CSI-2 Support and A31 ISP Support | expand

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Paul Kocialkowski Feb. 5, 2022, 6:54 p.m. UTC
This introduces YAML bindings documentation for the Allwinner A31 Image
Signal Processor (ISP).

Signed-off-by: Paul Kocialkowski <paul.kocialkowski@bootlin.com>
---
 .../media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml        | 117 ++++++++++++++++++
 1 file changed, 117 insertions(+)
 create mode 100644 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml

Comments

Laurent Pinchart Feb. 7, 2022, 3:51 p.m. UTC | #1
Hi Paul,

Thank you for the patch.

On Sat, Feb 05, 2022 at 07:54:24PM +0100, Paul Kocialkowski wrote:
> This introduces YAML bindings documentation for the Allwinner A31 Image
> Signal Processor (ISP).
> 
> Signed-off-by: Paul Kocialkowski <paul.kocialkowski@bootlin.com>
> ---
>  .../media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml        | 117 ++++++++++++++++++
>  1 file changed, 117 insertions(+)
>  create mode 100644 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml
> 
> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml
> new file mode 100644
> index 000000000000..2d87022c43ce
> --- /dev/null
> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml
> @@ -0,0 +1,117 @@
> +# SPDX-License-Identifier: (GPL-2.0 OR BSD-2-Clause)
> +%YAML 1.2
> +---
> +$id: http://devicetree.org/schemas/media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml#
> +$schema: http://devicetree.org/meta-schemas/core.yaml#
> +
> +title: Allwinner A31 Image Signal Processor Driver (ISP) Device Tree Bindings
> +
> +maintainers:
> +  - Paul Kocialkowski <paul.kocialkowski@bootlin.com>
> +
> +properties:
> +  compatible:
> +    enum:
> +      - allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp
> +      - allwinner,sun8i-v3s-isp
> +
> +  reg:
> +    maxItems: 1
> +
> +  interrupts:
> +    maxItems: 1
> +
> +  clocks:
> +    items:
> +      - description: Bus Clock
> +      - description: Module Clock
> +      - description: DRAM Clock

That's interesting, does the ISP have a dedicated DRAM ?

> +
> +  clock-names:
> +    items:
> +      - const: bus
> +      - const: mod
> +      - const: ram
> +
> +  resets:
> +    maxItems: 1
> +
> +  ports:
> +    $ref: /schemas/graph.yaml#/properties/ports
> +
> +    properties:
> +      port@0:
> +        $ref: /schemas/graph.yaml#/$defs/port-base
> +        description: CSI0 input port
> +
> +        properties:
> +          reg:
> +            const: 0
> +
> +          endpoint:
> +            $ref: video-interfaces.yaml#
> +            unevaluatedProperties: false

If no other property than remote-endpoint are allowed, I'd write

          endpoint:
            $ref: video-interfaces.yaml#
	    remote-endpoint: true
            additionalProperties: false

Same below.

> +
> +        additionalProperties: false
> +
> +      port@1:
> +        $ref: /schemas/graph.yaml#/$defs/port-base
> +        description: CSI1 input port
> +
> +        properties:
> +          reg:
> +            const: 0

This should be 1.

> +
> +          endpoint:
> +            $ref: video-interfaces.yaml#
> +            unevaluatedProperties: false
> +
> +        additionalProperties: false
> +
> +    anyOf:
> +      - required:
> +        - port@0
> +      - required:
> +        - port@1

As ports are an intrinsic property of the ISP, both should be required,
but they don't have to be connected.

By the way, how do you select at runtime which CSI-2 RX the ISP gets its
image stream from ? Is it configured through registers of the ISP ?

> +
> +required:
> +  - compatible
> +  - reg
> +  - interrupts
> +  - clocks
> +  - clock-names
> +  - resets
> +
> +additionalProperties: false
> +
> +examples:
> +  - |
> +    #include <dt-bindings/interrupt-controller/arm-gic.h>
> +    #include <dt-bindings/clock/sun8i-v3s-ccu.h>
> +    #include <dt-bindings/reset/sun8i-v3s-ccu.h>
> +
> +    isp: isp@1cb8000 {
> +        compatible = "allwinner,sun8i-v3s-isp";
> +        reg = <0x01cb8000 0x1000>;
> +        interrupts = <GIC_SPI 83 IRQ_TYPE_LEVEL_HIGH>;
> +        clocks = <&ccu CLK_BUS_CSI>,
> +             <&ccu CLK_CSI1_SCLK>,
> +             <&ccu CLK_DRAM_CSI>;
> +        clock-names = "bus", "mod", "ram";
> +        resets = <&ccu RST_BUS_CSI>;
> +
> +        ports {
> +            #address-cells = <1>;
> +            #size-cells = <0>;
> +
> +            port@0 {
> +                reg = <0>;
> +
> +                isp_in_csi0: endpoint {
> +                    remote-endpoint = <&csi0_out_isp>;
> +                };
> +            };
> +        };
> +    };
> +
> +...
Rob Herring (Arm) Feb. 11, 2022, 3:13 p.m. UTC | #2
On Mon, Feb 07, 2022 at 05:51:21PM +0200, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> Hi Paul,
> 
> Thank you for the patch.
> 
> On Sat, Feb 05, 2022 at 07:54:24PM +0100, Paul Kocialkowski wrote:
> > This introduces YAML bindings documentation for the Allwinner A31 Image
> > Signal Processor (ISP).
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Paul Kocialkowski <paul.kocialkowski@bootlin.com>
> > ---
> >  .../media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml        | 117 ++++++++++++++++++
> >  1 file changed, 117 insertions(+)
> >  create mode 100644 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml
> > 
> > diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml
> > new file mode 100644
> > index 000000000000..2d87022c43ce
> > --- /dev/null
> > +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml
> > @@ -0,0 +1,117 @@
> > +# SPDX-License-Identifier: (GPL-2.0 OR BSD-2-Clause)
> > +%YAML 1.2
> > +---
> > +$id: http://devicetree.org/schemas/media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml#
> > +$schema: http://devicetree.org/meta-schemas/core.yaml#
> > +
> > +title: Allwinner A31 Image Signal Processor Driver (ISP) Device Tree Bindings
> > +
> > +maintainers:
> > +  - Paul Kocialkowski <paul.kocialkowski@bootlin.com>
> > +
> > +properties:
> > +  compatible:
> > +    enum:
> > +      - allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp
> > +      - allwinner,sun8i-v3s-isp
> > +
> > +  reg:
> > +    maxItems: 1
> > +
> > +  interrupts:
> > +    maxItems: 1
> > +
> > +  clocks:
> > +    items:
> > +      - description: Bus Clock
> > +      - description: Module Clock
> > +      - description: DRAM Clock
> 
> That's interesting, does the ISP have a dedicated DRAM ?
> 
> > +
> > +  clock-names:
> > +    items:
> > +      - const: bus
> > +      - const: mod
> > +      - const: ram
> > +
> > +  resets:
> > +    maxItems: 1
> > +
> > +  ports:
> > +    $ref: /schemas/graph.yaml#/properties/ports
> > +
> > +    properties:
> > +      port@0:
> > +        $ref: /schemas/graph.yaml#/$defs/port-base
> > +        description: CSI0 input port
> > +
> > +        properties:
> > +          reg:
> > +            const: 0
> > +
> > +          endpoint:
> > +            $ref: video-interfaces.yaml#
> > +            unevaluatedProperties: false
> 
> If no other property than remote-endpoint are allowed, I'd write
> 
>           endpoint:
>             $ref: video-interfaces.yaml#
> 	    remote-endpoint: true

You just mixed a node and a property...

'remote-endpoint' is always allowed, so need to put it here and every 
other user. So 'unevaluatedProperties' is correct. But it would be good 
to define what properties from video-interfaces.yaml are used here.

Rob
Laurent Pinchart Feb. 11, 2022, 8:52 p.m. UTC | #3
Hi Rob,

On Fri, Feb 11, 2022 at 09:13:30AM -0600, Rob Herring wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 07, 2022 at 05:51:21PM +0200, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > On Sat, Feb 05, 2022 at 07:54:24PM +0100, Paul Kocialkowski wrote:
> > > This introduces YAML bindings documentation for the Allwinner A31 Image
> > > Signal Processor (ISP).
> > > 
> > > Signed-off-by: Paul Kocialkowski <paul.kocialkowski@bootlin.com>
> > > ---
> > >  .../media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml        | 117 ++++++++++++++++++
> > >  1 file changed, 117 insertions(+)
> > >  create mode 100644 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml
> > > 
> > > diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml
> > > new file mode 100644
> > > index 000000000000..2d87022c43ce
> > > --- /dev/null
> > > +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml
> > > @@ -0,0 +1,117 @@
> > > +# SPDX-License-Identifier: (GPL-2.0 OR BSD-2-Clause)
> > > +%YAML 1.2
> > > +---
> > > +$id: http://devicetree.org/schemas/media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml#
> > > +$schema: http://devicetree.org/meta-schemas/core.yaml#
> > > +
> > > +title: Allwinner A31 Image Signal Processor Driver (ISP) Device Tree Bindings
> > > +
> > > +maintainers:
> > > +  - Paul Kocialkowski <paul.kocialkowski@bootlin.com>
> > > +
> > > +properties:
> > > +  compatible:
> > > +    enum:
> > > +      - allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp
> > > +      - allwinner,sun8i-v3s-isp
> > > +
> > > +  reg:
> > > +    maxItems: 1
> > > +
> > > +  interrupts:
> > > +    maxItems: 1
> > > +
> > > +  clocks:
> > > +    items:
> > > +      - description: Bus Clock
> > > +      - description: Module Clock
> > > +      - description: DRAM Clock
> > 
> > That's interesting, does the ISP have a dedicated DRAM ?
> > 
> > > +
> > > +  clock-names:
> > > +    items:
> > > +      - const: bus
> > > +      - const: mod
> > > +      - const: ram
> > > +
> > > +  resets:
> > > +    maxItems: 1
> > > +
> > > +  ports:
> > > +    $ref: /schemas/graph.yaml#/properties/ports
> > > +
> > > +    properties:
> > > +      port@0:
> > > +        $ref: /schemas/graph.yaml#/$defs/port-base
> > > +        description: CSI0 input port
> > > +
> > > +        properties:
> > > +          reg:
> > > +            const: 0
> > > +
> > > +          endpoint:
> > > +            $ref: video-interfaces.yaml#
> > > +            unevaluatedProperties: false
> > 
> > If no other property than remote-endpoint are allowed, I'd write
> > 
> >           endpoint:
> >             $ref: video-interfaces.yaml#
> > 	    remote-endpoint: true
> 
> You just mixed a node and a property...

Yes, I meant

           endpoint:
             $ref: video-interfaces.yaml#
             properties:
               remote-endpoint: true

and actually add

             additionalProperties: false

> 'remote-endpoint' is always allowed, so need to put it here and every 
> other user. So 'unevaluatedProperties' is correct. But it would be good 
> to define what properties from video-interfaces.yaml are used here.

I've been looking at this recently. The usual pattern is to write

    endpoint:
      $ref: video-interfaces.yaml#
      unevaluatedProperties: false
      properties:
        hsync-polarity: true
        vsync-polarity: true

to express that the hsync-polarity and vsync-polarity properties are
used. However, this will still validate fine if, for instance,
data-lanes was specified in the device tree. Shouldn't we use
additionalProperties instead of unevaluatedProperties here ? If so,
specifying remote-endpoint: true seems needed.
Paul Kocialkowski Feb. 14, 2022, 4:18 p.m. UTC | #4
Hi Laurent,

Thanks for the review and the follow-up questions!

On Mon 07 Feb 22, 17:51, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> Hi Paul,
> 
> Thank you for the patch.
> 
> On Sat, Feb 05, 2022 at 07:54:24PM +0100, Paul Kocialkowski wrote:
> > This introduces YAML bindings documentation for the Allwinner A31 Image
> > Signal Processor (ISP).
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Paul Kocialkowski <paul.kocialkowski@bootlin.com>
> > ---
> >  .../media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml        | 117 ++++++++++++++++++
> >  1 file changed, 117 insertions(+)
> >  create mode 100644 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml
> > 
> > diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml
> > new file mode 100644
> > index 000000000000..2d87022c43ce
> > --- /dev/null
> > +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml
> > @@ -0,0 +1,117 @@
> > +# SPDX-License-Identifier: (GPL-2.0 OR BSD-2-Clause)
> > +%YAML 1.2
> > +---
> > +$id: http://devicetree.org/schemas/media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml#
> > +$schema: http://devicetree.org/meta-schemas/core.yaml#
> > +
> > +title: Allwinner A31 Image Signal Processor Driver (ISP) Device Tree Bindings
> > +
> > +maintainers:
> > +  - Paul Kocialkowski <paul.kocialkowski@bootlin.com>
> > +
> > +properties:
> > +  compatible:
> > +    enum:
> > +      - allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp
> > +      - allwinner,sun8i-v3s-isp
> > +
> > +  reg:
> > +    maxItems: 1
> > +
> > +  interrupts:
> > +    maxItems: 1
> > +
> > +  clocks:
> > +    items:
> > +      - description: Bus Clock
> > +      - description: Module Clock
> > +      - description: DRAM Clock
> 
> That's interesting, does the ISP have a dedicated DRAM ?

It doesn't, it actually uses the main DRAM with the "mbus" interconnect.
The clock is probably for the DMA engine.

> > +
> > +  clock-names:
> > +    items:
> > +      - const: bus
> > +      - const: mod
> > +      - const: ram
> > +
> > +  resets:
> > +    maxItems: 1
> > +
> > +  ports:
> > +    $ref: /schemas/graph.yaml#/properties/ports
> > +
> > +    properties:
> > +      port@0:
> > +        $ref: /schemas/graph.yaml#/$defs/port-base
> > +        description: CSI0 input port
> > +
> > +        properties:
> > +          reg:
> > +            const: 0
> > +
> > +          endpoint:
> > +            $ref: video-interfaces.yaml#
> > +            unevaluatedProperties: false
> 
> If no other property than remote-endpoint are allowed, I'd write
> 
>           endpoint:
>             $ref: video-interfaces.yaml#
> 	    remote-endpoint: true
>             additionalProperties: false
> 
> Same below.
> 
> > +
> > +        additionalProperties: false
> > +
> > +      port@1:
> > +        $ref: /schemas/graph.yaml#/$defs/port-base
> > +        description: CSI1 input port
> > +
> > +        properties:
> > +          reg:
> > +            const: 0
> 
> This should be 1.

Correct, thanks!

> > +
> > +          endpoint:
> > +            $ref: video-interfaces.yaml#
> > +            unevaluatedProperties: false
> > +
> > +        additionalProperties: false
> > +
> > +    anyOf:
> > +      - required:
> > +        - port@0
> > +      - required:
> > +        - port@1
> 
> As ports are an intrinsic property of the ISP, both should be required,
> but they don't have to be connected.

Well the ISP does have the ability to source from either CSI0 and CSI1
but I don't really get the point of declaring both ports when only one
of the two controllers is present.

> By the way, how do you select at runtime which CSI-2 RX the ISP gets its
> image stream from ? Is it configured through registers of the ISP ?

Actually what the ISP gets is fully dependent on what is received by the
CSI controller it is connected to (which can be the mipi csi-2 controller
or its direct parallel pins), so the configuration happens on the CSI side.

Thanks,

Paul

> > +
> > +required:
> > +  - compatible
> > +  - reg
> > +  - interrupts
> > +  - clocks
> > +  - clock-names
> > +  - resets
> > +
> > +additionalProperties: false
> > +
> > +examples:
> > +  - |
> > +    #include <dt-bindings/interrupt-controller/arm-gic.h>
> > +    #include <dt-bindings/clock/sun8i-v3s-ccu.h>
> > +    #include <dt-bindings/reset/sun8i-v3s-ccu.h>
> > +
> > +    isp: isp@1cb8000 {
> > +        compatible = "allwinner,sun8i-v3s-isp";
> > +        reg = <0x01cb8000 0x1000>;
> > +        interrupts = <GIC_SPI 83 IRQ_TYPE_LEVEL_HIGH>;
> > +        clocks = <&ccu CLK_BUS_CSI>,
> > +             <&ccu CLK_CSI1_SCLK>,
> > +             <&ccu CLK_DRAM_CSI>;
> > +        clock-names = "bus", "mod", "ram";
> > +        resets = <&ccu RST_BUS_CSI>;
> > +
> > +        ports {
> > +            #address-cells = <1>;
> > +            #size-cells = <0>;
> > +
> > +            port@0 {
> > +                reg = <0>;
> > +
> > +                isp_in_csi0: endpoint {
> > +                    remote-endpoint = <&csi0_out_isp>;
> > +                };
> > +            };
> > +        };
> > +    };
> > +
> > +...
> 
> -- 
> Regards,
> 
> Laurent Pinchart
Paul Kocialkowski Feb. 14, 2022, 4:28 p.m. UTC | #5
Hi,

On Fri 11 Feb 22, 22:52, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> Hi Rob,
> 
> On Fri, Feb 11, 2022 at 09:13:30AM -0600, Rob Herring wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 07, 2022 at 05:51:21PM +0200, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > > On Sat, Feb 05, 2022 at 07:54:24PM +0100, Paul Kocialkowski wrote:
> > > > This introduces YAML bindings documentation for the Allwinner A31 Image
> > > > Signal Processor (ISP).
> > > > 
> > > > Signed-off-by: Paul Kocialkowski <paul.kocialkowski@bootlin.com>
> > > > ---
> > > >  .../media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml        | 117 ++++++++++++++++++
> > > >  1 file changed, 117 insertions(+)
> > > >  create mode 100644 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml
> > > > 
> > > > diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml
> > > > new file mode 100644
> > > > index 000000000000..2d87022c43ce
> > > > --- /dev/null
> > > > +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml
> > > > @@ -0,0 +1,117 @@
> > > > +# SPDX-License-Identifier: (GPL-2.0 OR BSD-2-Clause)
> > > > +%YAML 1.2
> > > > +---
> > > > +$id: http://devicetree.org/schemas/media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml#
> > > > +$schema: http://devicetree.org/meta-schemas/core.yaml#
> > > > +
> > > > +title: Allwinner A31 Image Signal Processor Driver (ISP) Device Tree Bindings
> > > > +
> > > > +maintainers:
> > > > +  - Paul Kocialkowski <paul.kocialkowski@bootlin.com>
> > > > +
> > > > +properties:
> > > > +  compatible:
> > > > +    enum:
> > > > +      - allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp
> > > > +      - allwinner,sun8i-v3s-isp
> > > > +
> > > > +  reg:
> > > > +    maxItems: 1
> > > > +
> > > > +  interrupts:
> > > > +    maxItems: 1
> > > > +
> > > > +  clocks:
> > > > +    items:
> > > > +      - description: Bus Clock
> > > > +      - description: Module Clock
> > > > +      - description: DRAM Clock
> > > 
> > > That's interesting, does the ISP have a dedicated DRAM ?
> > > 
> > > > +
> > > > +  clock-names:
> > > > +    items:
> > > > +      - const: bus
> > > > +      - const: mod
> > > > +      - const: ram
> > > > +
> > > > +  resets:
> > > > +    maxItems: 1
> > > > +
> > > > +  ports:
> > > > +    $ref: /schemas/graph.yaml#/properties/ports
> > > > +
> > > > +    properties:
> > > > +      port@0:
> > > > +        $ref: /schemas/graph.yaml#/$defs/port-base
> > > > +        description: CSI0 input port
> > > > +
> > > > +        properties:
> > > > +          reg:
> > > > +            const: 0
> > > > +
> > > > +          endpoint:
> > > > +            $ref: video-interfaces.yaml#
> > > > +            unevaluatedProperties: false
> > > 
> > > If no other property than remote-endpoint are allowed, I'd write
> > > 
> > >           endpoint:
> > >             $ref: video-interfaces.yaml#
> > > 	    remote-endpoint: true
> > 
> > You just mixed a node and a property...
> 
> Yes, I meant
> 
>            endpoint:
>              $ref: video-interfaces.yaml#
>              properties:
>                remote-endpoint: true
> 
> and actually add
> 
>              additionalProperties: false
> 
> > 'remote-endpoint' is always allowed, so need to put it here and every 
> > other user. So 'unevaluatedProperties' is correct. But it would be good 
> > to define what properties from video-interfaces.yaml are used here.
> 
> I've been looking at this recently. The usual pattern is to write
> 
>     endpoint:
>       $ref: video-interfaces.yaml#
>       unevaluatedProperties: false
>       properties:
>         hsync-polarity: true
>         vsync-polarity: true
> 
> to express that the hsync-polarity and vsync-polarity properties are
> used. However, this will still validate fine if, for instance,
> data-lanes was specified in the device tree. Shouldn't we use
> additionalProperties instead of unevaluatedProperties here ? If so,
> specifying remote-endpoint: true seems needed.

My understanding is that unevaluatedProperties well allow all properties
defined in the included video-interfaces.yaml ref but reject others
while additionalProperties will reject any unspecified local property,
even if it is declared in the ref.

In any case with the ISP maybe we don't even want to take the ref from
video-interfaces.yaml since we are dealing with an internal fifo between
two devices. Maybe it would be more appropriate to ref
/schemas/graph.yaml#/$defs/endpoint-base, which already defines
remote-endpoint too.

What do you think?

Paul
Laurent Pinchart Feb. 14, 2022, 5:09 p.m. UTC | #6
Hi Paul,

On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 05:18:07PM +0100, Paul Kocialkowski wrote:
> On Mon 07 Feb 22, 17:51, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > On Sat, Feb 05, 2022 at 07:54:24PM +0100, Paul Kocialkowski wrote:
> > > This introduces YAML bindings documentation for the Allwinner A31 Image
> > > Signal Processor (ISP).
> > > 
> > > Signed-off-by: Paul Kocialkowski <paul.kocialkowski@bootlin.com>
> > > ---
> > >  .../media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml        | 117 ++++++++++++++++++
> > >  1 file changed, 117 insertions(+)
> > >  create mode 100644 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml
> > > 
> > > diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml
> > > new file mode 100644
> > > index 000000000000..2d87022c43ce
> > > --- /dev/null
> > > +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml
> > > @@ -0,0 +1,117 @@
> > > +# SPDX-License-Identifier: (GPL-2.0 OR BSD-2-Clause)
> > > +%YAML 1.2
> > > +---
> > > +$id: http://devicetree.org/schemas/media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml#
> > > +$schema: http://devicetree.org/meta-schemas/core.yaml#
> > > +
> > > +title: Allwinner A31 Image Signal Processor Driver (ISP) Device Tree Bindings
> > > +
> > > +maintainers:
> > > +  - Paul Kocialkowski <paul.kocialkowski@bootlin.com>
> > > +
> > > +properties:
> > > +  compatible:
> > > +    enum:
> > > +      - allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp
> > > +      - allwinner,sun8i-v3s-isp
> > > +
> > > +  reg:
> > > +    maxItems: 1
> > > +
> > > +  interrupts:
> > > +    maxItems: 1
> > > +
> > > +  clocks:
> > > +    items:
> > > +      - description: Bus Clock
> > > +      - description: Module Clock
> > > +      - description: DRAM Clock
> > 
> > That's interesting, does the ISP have a dedicated DRAM ?
> 
> It doesn't, it actually uses the main DRAM with the "mbus" interconnect.
> The clock is probably for the DMA engine.
> 
> > > +
> > > +  clock-names:
> > > +    items:
> > > +      - const: bus
> > > +      - const: mod
> > > +      - const: ram
> > > +
> > > +  resets:
> > > +    maxItems: 1
> > > +
> > > +  ports:
> > > +    $ref: /schemas/graph.yaml#/properties/ports
> > > +
> > > +    properties:
> > > +      port@0:
> > > +        $ref: /schemas/graph.yaml#/$defs/port-base
> > > +        description: CSI0 input port
> > > +
> > > +        properties:
> > > +          reg:
> > > +            const: 0
> > > +
> > > +          endpoint:
> > > +            $ref: video-interfaces.yaml#
> > > +            unevaluatedProperties: false
> > 
> > If no other property than remote-endpoint are allowed, I'd write
> > 
> >           endpoint:
> >             $ref: video-interfaces.yaml#
> > 	    remote-endpoint: true
> >             additionalProperties: false
> > 
> > Same below.
> > 
> > > +
> > > +        additionalProperties: false
> > > +
> > > +      port@1:
> > > +        $ref: /schemas/graph.yaml#/$defs/port-base
> > > +        description: CSI1 input port
> > > +
> > > +        properties:
> > > +          reg:
> > > +            const: 0
> > 
> > This should be 1.
> 
> Correct, thanks!
> 
> > > +
> > > +          endpoint:
> > > +            $ref: video-interfaces.yaml#
> > > +            unevaluatedProperties: false
> > > +
> > > +        additionalProperties: false
> > > +
> > > +    anyOf:
> > > +      - required:
> > > +        - port@0
> > > +      - required:
> > > +        - port@1
> > 
> > As ports are an intrinsic property of the ISP, both should be required,
> > but they don't have to be connected.
> 
> Well the ISP does have the ability to source from either CSI0 and CSI1
> but I don't really get the point of declaring both ports when only one
> of the two controllers is present.

If it's within an SoC I don't mind too much. What I usually insist on is
declaring all ports even when no external devices are connected on the
board. It may however be easier to implement things on the driver side
when all the ports are declared, even for internal devices. I won't
insist either way here.

> > By the way, how do you select at runtime which CSI-2 RX the ISP gets its
> > image stream from ? Is it configured through registers of the ISP ?
> 
> Actually what the ISP gets is fully dependent on what is received by the
> CSI controller it is connected to (which can be the mipi csi-2 controller
> or its direct parallel pins), so the configuration happens on the CSI side.

OK, then how do you select at runtime which CSI the ISP gets its image
stream from ? :-)

> > > +
> > > +required:
> > > +  - compatible
> > > +  - reg
> > > +  - interrupts
> > > +  - clocks
> > > +  - clock-names
> > > +  - resets
> > > +
> > > +additionalProperties: false
> > > +
> > > +examples:
> > > +  - |
> > > +    #include <dt-bindings/interrupt-controller/arm-gic.h>
> > > +    #include <dt-bindings/clock/sun8i-v3s-ccu.h>
> > > +    #include <dt-bindings/reset/sun8i-v3s-ccu.h>
> > > +
> > > +    isp: isp@1cb8000 {
> > > +        compatible = "allwinner,sun8i-v3s-isp";
> > > +        reg = <0x01cb8000 0x1000>;
> > > +        interrupts = <GIC_SPI 83 IRQ_TYPE_LEVEL_HIGH>;
> > > +        clocks = <&ccu CLK_BUS_CSI>,
> > > +             <&ccu CLK_CSI1_SCLK>,
> > > +             <&ccu CLK_DRAM_CSI>;
> > > +        clock-names = "bus", "mod", "ram";
> > > +        resets = <&ccu RST_BUS_CSI>;
> > > +
> > > +        ports {
> > > +            #address-cells = <1>;
> > > +            #size-cells = <0>;
> > > +
> > > +            port@0 {
> > > +                reg = <0>;
> > > +
> > > +                isp_in_csi0: endpoint {
> > > +                    remote-endpoint = <&csi0_out_isp>;
> > > +                };
> > > +            };
> > > +        };
> > > +    };
> > > +
> > > +...
Laurent Pinchart Feb. 14, 2022, 5:10 p.m. UTC | #7
On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 05:28:50PM +0100, Paul Kocialkowski wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Fri 11 Feb 22, 22:52, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > Hi Rob,
> > 
> > On Fri, Feb 11, 2022 at 09:13:30AM -0600, Rob Herring wrote:
> > > On Mon, Feb 07, 2022 at 05:51:21PM +0200, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > > > On Sat, Feb 05, 2022 at 07:54:24PM +0100, Paul Kocialkowski wrote:
> > > > > This introduces YAML bindings documentation for the Allwinner A31 Image
> > > > > Signal Processor (ISP).
> > > > > 
> > > > > Signed-off-by: Paul Kocialkowski <paul.kocialkowski@bootlin.com>
> > > > > ---
> > > > >  .../media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml        | 117 ++++++++++++++++++
> > > > >  1 file changed, 117 insertions(+)
> > > > >  create mode 100644 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml
> > > > > 
> > > > > diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml
> > > > > new file mode 100644
> > > > > index 000000000000..2d87022c43ce
> > > > > --- /dev/null
> > > > > +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml
> > > > > @@ -0,0 +1,117 @@
> > > > > +# SPDX-License-Identifier: (GPL-2.0 OR BSD-2-Clause)
> > > > > +%YAML 1.2
> > > > > +---
> > > > > +$id: http://devicetree.org/schemas/media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml#
> > > > > +$schema: http://devicetree.org/meta-schemas/core.yaml#
> > > > > +
> > > > > +title: Allwinner A31 Image Signal Processor Driver (ISP) Device Tree Bindings
> > > > > +
> > > > > +maintainers:
> > > > > +  - Paul Kocialkowski <paul.kocialkowski@bootlin.com>
> > > > > +
> > > > > +properties:
> > > > > +  compatible:
> > > > > +    enum:
> > > > > +      - allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp
> > > > > +      - allwinner,sun8i-v3s-isp
> > > > > +
> > > > > +  reg:
> > > > > +    maxItems: 1
> > > > > +
> > > > > +  interrupts:
> > > > > +    maxItems: 1
> > > > > +
> > > > > +  clocks:
> > > > > +    items:
> > > > > +      - description: Bus Clock
> > > > > +      - description: Module Clock
> > > > > +      - description: DRAM Clock
> > > > 
> > > > That's interesting, does the ISP have a dedicated DRAM ?
> > > > 
> > > > > +
> > > > > +  clock-names:
> > > > > +    items:
> > > > > +      - const: bus
> > > > > +      - const: mod
> > > > > +      - const: ram
> > > > > +
> > > > > +  resets:
> > > > > +    maxItems: 1
> > > > > +
> > > > > +  ports:
> > > > > +    $ref: /schemas/graph.yaml#/properties/ports
> > > > > +
> > > > > +    properties:
> > > > > +      port@0:
> > > > > +        $ref: /schemas/graph.yaml#/$defs/port-base
> > > > > +        description: CSI0 input port
> > > > > +
> > > > > +        properties:
> > > > > +          reg:
> > > > > +            const: 0
> > > > > +
> > > > > +          endpoint:
> > > > > +            $ref: video-interfaces.yaml#
> > > > > +            unevaluatedProperties: false
> > > > 
> > > > If no other property than remote-endpoint are allowed, I'd write
> > > > 
> > > >           endpoint:
> > > >             $ref: video-interfaces.yaml#
> > > > 	    remote-endpoint: true
> > > 
> > > You just mixed a node and a property...
> > 
> > Yes, I meant
> > 
> >            endpoint:
> >              $ref: video-interfaces.yaml#
> >              properties:
> >                remote-endpoint: true
> > 
> > and actually add
> > 
> >              additionalProperties: false
> > 
> > > 'remote-endpoint' is always allowed, so need to put it here and every 
> > > other user. So 'unevaluatedProperties' is correct. But it would be good 
> > > to define what properties from video-interfaces.yaml are used here.
> > 
> > I've been looking at this recently. The usual pattern is to write
> > 
> >     endpoint:
> >       $ref: video-interfaces.yaml#
> >       unevaluatedProperties: false
> >       properties:
> >         hsync-polarity: true
> >         vsync-polarity: true
> > 
> > to express that the hsync-polarity and vsync-polarity properties are
> > used. However, this will still validate fine if, for instance,
> > data-lanes was specified in the device tree. Shouldn't we use
> > additionalProperties instead of unevaluatedProperties here ? If so,
> > specifying remote-endpoint: true seems needed.
> 
> My understanding is that unevaluatedProperties well allow all properties
> defined in the included video-interfaces.yaml ref but reject others
> while additionalProperties will reject any unspecified local property,
> even if it is declared in the ref.
> 
> In any case with the ISP maybe we don't even want to take the ref from
> video-interfaces.yaml since we are dealing with an internal fifo between
> two devices. Maybe it would be more appropriate to ref
> /schemas/graph.yaml#/$defs/endpoint-base, which already defines
> remote-endpoint too.
> 
> What do you think?

Yes, if no additional property are needed, you can replace port-base
with port, it will simplify the bindings.
Paul Kocialkowski Feb. 15, 2022, 10:10 a.m. UTC | #8
Hi Laurent,

On Mon 14 Feb 22, 19:09, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> Hi Paul,
> 
> On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 05:18:07PM +0100, Paul Kocialkowski wrote:
> > On Mon 07 Feb 22, 17:51, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > > On Sat, Feb 05, 2022 at 07:54:24PM +0100, Paul Kocialkowski wrote:
> > > > This introduces YAML bindings documentation for the Allwinner A31 Image
> > > > Signal Processor (ISP).
> > > > 
> > > > Signed-off-by: Paul Kocialkowski <paul.kocialkowski@bootlin.com>
> > > > ---
> > > >  .../media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml        | 117 ++++++++++++++++++
> > > >  1 file changed, 117 insertions(+)
> > > >  create mode 100644 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml
> > > > 
> > > > diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml
> > > > new file mode 100644
> > > > index 000000000000..2d87022c43ce
> > > > --- /dev/null
> > > > +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml
> > > > @@ -0,0 +1,117 @@
> > > > +# SPDX-License-Identifier: (GPL-2.0 OR BSD-2-Clause)
> > > > +%YAML 1.2
> > > > +---
> > > > +$id: http://devicetree.org/schemas/media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml#
> > > > +$schema: http://devicetree.org/meta-schemas/core.yaml#
> > > > +
> > > > +title: Allwinner A31 Image Signal Processor Driver (ISP) Device Tree Bindings
> > > > +
> > > > +maintainers:
> > > > +  - Paul Kocialkowski <paul.kocialkowski@bootlin.com>
> > > > +
> > > > +properties:
> > > > +  compatible:
> > > > +    enum:
> > > > +      - allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp
> > > > +      - allwinner,sun8i-v3s-isp
> > > > +
> > > > +  reg:
> > > > +    maxItems: 1
> > > > +
> > > > +  interrupts:
> > > > +    maxItems: 1
> > > > +
> > > > +  clocks:
> > > > +    items:
> > > > +      - description: Bus Clock
> > > > +      - description: Module Clock
> > > > +      - description: DRAM Clock
> > > 
> > > That's interesting, does the ISP have a dedicated DRAM ?
> > 
> > It doesn't, it actually uses the main DRAM with the "mbus" interconnect.
> > The clock is probably for the DMA engine.
> > 
> > > > +
> > > > +  clock-names:
> > > > +    items:
> > > > +      - const: bus
> > > > +      - const: mod
> > > > +      - const: ram
> > > > +
> > > > +  resets:
> > > > +    maxItems: 1
> > > > +
> > > > +  ports:
> > > > +    $ref: /schemas/graph.yaml#/properties/ports
> > > > +
> > > > +    properties:
> > > > +      port@0:
> > > > +        $ref: /schemas/graph.yaml#/$defs/port-base
> > > > +        description: CSI0 input port
> > > > +
> > > > +        properties:
> > > > +          reg:
> > > > +            const: 0
> > > > +
> > > > +          endpoint:
> > > > +            $ref: video-interfaces.yaml#
> > > > +            unevaluatedProperties: false
> > > 
> > > If no other property than remote-endpoint are allowed, I'd write
> > > 
> > >           endpoint:
> > >             $ref: video-interfaces.yaml#
> > > 	    remote-endpoint: true
> > >             additionalProperties: false
> > > 
> > > Same below.
> > > 
> > > > +
> > > > +        additionalProperties: false
> > > > +
> > > > +      port@1:
> > > > +        $ref: /schemas/graph.yaml#/$defs/port-base
> > > > +        description: CSI1 input port
> > > > +
> > > > +        properties:
> > > > +          reg:
> > > > +            const: 0
> > > 
> > > This should be 1.
> > 
> > Correct, thanks!
> > 
> > > > +
> > > > +          endpoint:
> > > > +            $ref: video-interfaces.yaml#
> > > > +            unevaluatedProperties: false
> > > > +
> > > > +        additionalProperties: false
> > > > +
> > > > +    anyOf:
> > > > +      - required:
> > > > +        - port@0
> > > > +      - required:
> > > > +        - port@1
> > > 
> > > As ports are an intrinsic property of the ISP, both should be required,
> > > but they don't have to be connected.
> > 
> > Well the ISP does have the ability to source from either CSI0 and CSI1
> > but I don't really get the point of declaring both ports when only one
> > of the two controllers is present.
> 
> If it's within an SoC I don't mind too much. What I usually insist on is
> declaring all ports even when no external devices are connected on the
> board. It may however be easier to implement things on the driver side
> when all the ports are declared, even for internal devices. I won't
> insist either way here.
> 
> > > By the way, how do you select at runtime which CSI-2 RX the ISP gets its
> > > image stream from ? Is it configured through registers of the ISP ?
> > 
> > Actually what the ISP gets is fully dependent on what is received by the
> > CSI controller it is connected to (which can be the mipi csi-2 controller
> > or its direct parallel pins), so the configuration happens on the CSI side.
> 
> OK, then how do you select at runtime which CSI the ISP gets its image
> stream from ? :-)

What is done in the driver is that all available csi(s) entities pads are linked
to a single csi sink media pad, which allows userspace to enable one or the
other. If there's only one, it's enabled by default.

The actual stream source (isp_dev->proc.source) is selected at link_validate
time and the source bit is set in sun6i_isp_proc_enable.

I hope this answers your question!

Thanks,

Paul

> > > > +
> > > > +required:
> > > > +  - compatible
> > > > +  - reg
> > > > +  - interrupts
> > > > +  - clocks
> > > > +  - clock-names
> > > > +  - resets
> > > > +
> > > > +additionalProperties: false
> > > > +
> > > > +examples:
> > > > +  - |
> > > > +    #include <dt-bindings/interrupt-controller/arm-gic.h>
> > > > +    #include <dt-bindings/clock/sun8i-v3s-ccu.h>
> > > > +    #include <dt-bindings/reset/sun8i-v3s-ccu.h>
> > > > +
> > > > +    isp: isp@1cb8000 {
> > > > +        compatible = "allwinner,sun8i-v3s-isp";
> > > > +        reg = <0x01cb8000 0x1000>;
> > > > +        interrupts = <GIC_SPI 83 IRQ_TYPE_LEVEL_HIGH>;
> > > > +        clocks = <&ccu CLK_BUS_CSI>,
> > > > +             <&ccu CLK_CSI1_SCLK>,
> > > > +             <&ccu CLK_DRAM_CSI>;
> > > > +        clock-names = "bus", "mod", "ram";
> > > > +        resets = <&ccu RST_BUS_CSI>;
> > > > +
> > > > +        ports {
> > > > +            #address-cells = <1>;
> > > > +            #size-cells = <0>;
> > > > +
> > > > +            port@0 {
> > > > +                reg = <0>;
> > > > +
> > > > +                isp_in_csi0: endpoint {
> > > > +                    remote-endpoint = <&csi0_out_isp>;
> > > > +                };
> > > > +            };
> > > > +        };
> > > > +    };
> > > > +
> > > > +...
> 
> -- 
> Regards,
> 
> Laurent Pinchart
Laurent Pinchart Feb. 15, 2022, 10:16 a.m. UTC | #9
Hi Paul,

On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 11:10:52AM +0100, Paul Kocialkowski wrote:
> On Mon 14 Feb 22, 19:09, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 05:18:07PM +0100, Paul Kocialkowski wrote:
> > > On Mon 07 Feb 22, 17:51, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > > > On Sat, Feb 05, 2022 at 07:54:24PM +0100, Paul Kocialkowski wrote:
> > > > > This introduces YAML bindings documentation for the Allwinner A31 Image
> > > > > Signal Processor (ISP).
> > > > > 
> > > > > Signed-off-by: Paul Kocialkowski <paul.kocialkowski@bootlin.com>
> > > > > ---
> > > > >  .../media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml        | 117 ++++++++++++++++++
> > > > >  1 file changed, 117 insertions(+)
> > > > >  create mode 100644 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml
> > > > > 
> > > > > diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml
> > > > > new file mode 100644
> > > > > index 000000000000..2d87022c43ce
> > > > > --- /dev/null
> > > > > +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml
> > > > > @@ -0,0 +1,117 @@
> > > > > +# SPDX-License-Identifier: (GPL-2.0 OR BSD-2-Clause)
> > > > > +%YAML 1.2
> > > > > +---
> > > > > +$id: http://devicetree.org/schemas/media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml#
> > > > > +$schema: http://devicetree.org/meta-schemas/core.yaml#
> > > > > +
> > > > > +title: Allwinner A31 Image Signal Processor Driver (ISP) Device Tree Bindings
> > > > > +
> > > > > +maintainers:
> > > > > +  - Paul Kocialkowski <paul.kocialkowski@bootlin.com>
> > > > > +
> > > > > +properties:
> > > > > +  compatible:
> > > > > +    enum:
> > > > > +      - allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp
> > > > > +      - allwinner,sun8i-v3s-isp
> > > > > +
> > > > > +  reg:
> > > > > +    maxItems: 1
> > > > > +
> > > > > +  interrupts:
> > > > > +    maxItems: 1
> > > > > +
> > > > > +  clocks:
> > > > > +    items:
> > > > > +      - description: Bus Clock
> > > > > +      - description: Module Clock
> > > > > +      - description: DRAM Clock
> > > > 
> > > > That's interesting, does the ISP have a dedicated DRAM ?
> > > 
> > > It doesn't, it actually uses the main DRAM with the "mbus" interconnect.
> > > The clock is probably for the DMA engine.
> > > 
> > > > > +
> > > > > +  clock-names:
> > > > > +    items:
> > > > > +      - const: bus
> > > > > +      - const: mod
> > > > > +      - const: ram
> > > > > +
> > > > > +  resets:
> > > > > +    maxItems: 1
> > > > > +
> > > > > +  ports:
> > > > > +    $ref: /schemas/graph.yaml#/properties/ports
> > > > > +
> > > > > +    properties:
> > > > > +      port@0:
> > > > > +        $ref: /schemas/graph.yaml#/$defs/port-base
> > > > > +        description: CSI0 input port
> > > > > +
> > > > > +        properties:
> > > > > +          reg:
> > > > > +            const: 0
> > > > > +
> > > > > +          endpoint:
> > > > > +            $ref: video-interfaces.yaml#
> > > > > +            unevaluatedProperties: false
> > > > 
> > > > If no other property than remote-endpoint are allowed, I'd write
> > > > 
> > > >           endpoint:
> > > >             $ref: video-interfaces.yaml#
> > > > 	    remote-endpoint: true
> > > >             additionalProperties: false
> > > > 
> > > > Same below.
> > > > 
> > > > > +
> > > > > +        additionalProperties: false
> > > > > +
> > > > > +      port@1:
> > > > > +        $ref: /schemas/graph.yaml#/$defs/port-base
> > > > > +        description: CSI1 input port
> > > > > +
> > > > > +        properties:
> > > > > +          reg:
> > > > > +            const: 0
> > > > 
> > > > This should be 1.
> > > 
> > > Correct, thanks!
> > > 
> > > > > +
> > > > > +          endpoint:
> > > > > +            $ref: video-interfaces.yaml#
> > > > > +            unevaluatedProperties: false
> > > > > +
> > > > > +        additionalProperties: false
> > > > > +
> > > > > +    anyOf:
> > > > > +      - required:
> > > > > +        - port@0
> > > > > +      - required:
> > > > > +        - port@1
> > > > 
> > > > As ports are an intrinsic property of the ISP, both should be required,
> > > > but they don't have to be connected.
> > > 
> > > Well the ISP does have the ability to source from either CSI0 and CSI1
> > > but I don't really get the point of declaring both ports when only one
> > > of the two controllers is present.
> > 
> > If it's within an SoC I don't mind too much. What I usually insist on is
> > declaring all ports even when no external devices are connected on the
> > board. It may however be easier to implement things on the driver side
> > when all the ports are declared, even for internal devices. I won't
> > insist either way here.
> > 
> > > > By the way, how do you select at runtime which CSI-2 RX the ISP gets its
> > > > image stream from ? Is it configured through registers of the ISP ?
> > > 
> > > Actually what the ISP gets is fully dependent on what is received by the
> > > CSI controller it is connected to (which can be the mipi csi-2 controller
> > > or its direct parallel pins), so the configuration happens on the CSI side.
> > 
> > OK, then how do you select at runtime which CSI the ISP gets its image
> > stream from ? :-)
> 
> What is done in the driver is that all available csi(s) entities pads are linked
> to a single csi sink media pad, which allows userspace to enable one or the
> other. If there's only one, it's enabled by default.
> 
> The actual stream source (isp_dev->proc.source) is selected at link_validate
> time and the source bit is set in sun6i_isp_proc_enable.
> 
> I hope this answers your question!

Yes it does, thank you.

While this works, it makes life a bit more complicated for userspace, as
switching between the two sources require disabling the link first and
then enabling the new one. This is something that caused issues in the
libcamera simple pipeline handler, I ended up having to implement a
workaround.

Could you instead have two sink pads for the ISP, and select the sensor
at stream on time instead of link validation time by checking which link
is enabled ? If no links or both links are enabled, you can then return
an error.

Ideally I'd say such internal routing should use the new V4L2 subdev
routing API that is currently being implemented (see [1]), but I don't
know when it will land, and I don't want to delay your patch series.

[1] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-media/20211130141536.891878-28-tomi.valkeinen@ideasonboard.com

> > > > > +
> > > > > +required:
> > > > > +  - compatible
> > > > > +  - reg
> > > > > +  - interrupts
> > > > > +  - clocks
> > > > > +  - clock-names
> > > > > +  - resets
> > > > > +
> > > > > +additionalProperties: false
> > > > > +
> > > > > +examples:
> > > > > +  - |
> > > > > +    #include <dt-bindings/interrupt-controller/arm-gic.h>
> > > > > +    #include <dt-bindings/clock/sun8i-v3s-ccu.h>
> > > > > +    #include <dt-bindings/reset/sun8i-v3s-ccu.h>
> > > > > +
> > > > > +    isp: isp@1cb8000 {
> > > > > +        compatible = "allwinner,sun8i-v3s-isp";
> > > > > +        reg = <0x01cb8000 0x1000>;
> > > > > +        interrupts = <GIC_SPI 83 IRQ_TYPE_LEVEL_HIGH>;
> > > > > +        clocks = <&ccu CLK_BUS_CSI>,
> > > > > +             <&ccu CLK_CSI1_SCLK>,
> > > > > +             <&ccu CLK_DRAM_CSI>;
> > > > > +        clock-names = "bus", "mod", "ram";
> > > > > +        resets = <&ccu RST_BUS_CSI>;
> > > > > +
> > > > > +        ports {
> > > > > +            #address-cells = <1>;
> > > > > +            #size-cells = <0>;
> > > > > +
> > > > > +            port@0 {
> > > > > +                reg = <0>;
> > > > > +
> > > > > +                isp_in_csi0: endpoint {
> > > > > +                    remote-endpoint = <&csi0_out_isp>;
> > > > > +                };
> > > > > +            };
> > > > > +        };
> > > > > +    };
> > > > > +
> > > > > +...
Paul Kocialkowski March 1, 2022, 3:38 p.m. UTC | #10
Hi Laurent,

Looks like I didn't follow-up here.

On Tue 15 Feb 22, 12:16, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> Hi Paul,
> 
> On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 11:10:52AM +0100, Paul Kocialkowski wrote:
> > On Mon 14 Feb 22, 19:09, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > > On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 05:18:07PM +0100, Paul Kocialkowski wrote:
> > > > On Mon 07 Feb 22, 17:51, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > > > > On Sat, Feb 05, 2022 at 07:54:24PM +0100, Paul Kocialkowski wrote:
> > > > > > This introduces YAML bindings documentation for the Allwinner A31 Image
> > > > > > Signal Processor (ISP).
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Signed-off-by: Paul Kocialkowski <paul.kocialkowski@bootlin.com>
> > > > > > ---
> > > > > >  .../media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml        | 117 ++++++++++++++++++
> > > > > >  1 file changed, 117 insertions(+)
> > > > > >  create mode 100644 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml
> > > > > > new file mode 100644
> > > > > > index 000000000000..2d87022c43ce
> > > > > > --- /dev/null
> > > > > > +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml
> > > > > > @@ -0,0 +1,117 @@
> > > > > > +# SPDX-License-Identifier: (GPL-2.0 OR BSD-2-Clause)
> > > > > > +%YAML 1.2
> > > > > > +---
> > > > > > +$id: http://devicetree.org/schemas/media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml#
> > > > > > +$schema: http://devicetree.org/meta-schemas/core.yaml#
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +title: Allwinner A31 Image Signal Processor Driver (ISP) Device Tree Bindings
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +maintainers:
> > > > > > +  - Paul Kocialkowski <paul.kocialkowski@bootlin.com>
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +properties:
> > > > > > +  compatible:
> > > > > > +    enum:
> > > > > > +      - allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp
> > > > > > +      - allwinner,sun8i-v3s-isp
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +  reg:
> > > > > > +    maxItems: 1
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +  interrupts:
> > > > > > +    maxItems: 1
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +  clocks:
> > > > > > +    items:
> > > > > > +      - description: Bus Clock
> > > > > > +      - description: Module Clock
> > > > > > +      - description: DRAM Clock
> > > > > 
> > > > > That's interesting, does the ISP have a dedicated DRAM ?
> > > > 
> > > > It doesn't, it actually uses the main DRAM with the "mbus" interconnect.
> > > > The clock is probably for the DMA engine.
> > > > 
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +  clock-names:
> > > > > > +    items:
> > > > > > +      - const: bus
> > > > > > +      - const: mod
> > > > > > +      - const: ram
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +  resets:
> > > > > > +    maxItems: 1
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +  ports:
> > > > > > +    $ref: /schemas/graph.yaml#/properties/ports
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +    properties:
> > > > > > +      port@0:
> > > > > > +        $ref: /schemas/graph.yaml#/$defs/port-base
> > > > > > +        description: CSI0 input port
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +        properties:
> > > > > > +          reg:
> > > > > > +            const: 0
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +          endpoint:
> > > > > > +            $ref: video-interfaces.yaml#
> > > > > > +            unevaluatedProperties: false
> > > > > 
> > > > > If no other property than remote-endpoint are allowed, I'd write
> > > > > 
> > > > >           endpoint:
> > > > >             $ref: video-interfaces.yaml#
> > > > > 	    remote-endpoint: true
> > > > >             additionalProperties: false
> > > > > 
> > > > > Same below.
> > > > > 
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +        additionalProperties: false
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +      port@1:
> > > > > > +        $ref: /schemas/graph.yaml#/$defs/port-base
> > > > > > +        description: CSI1 input port
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +        properties:
> > > > > > +          reg:
> > > > > > +            const: 0
> > > > > 
> > > > > This should be 1.
> > > > 
> > > > Correct, thanks!
> > > > 
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +          endpoint:
> > > > > > +            $ref: video-interfaces.yaml#
> > > > > > +            unevaluatedProperties: false
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +        additionalProperties: false
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +    anyOf:
> > > > > > +      - required:
> > > > > > +        - port@0
> > > > > > +      - required:
> > > > > > +        - port@1
> > > > > 
> > > > > As ports are an intrinsic property of the ISP, both should be required,
> > > > > but they don't have to be connected.
> > > > 
> > > > Well the ISP does have the ability to source from either CSI0 and CSI1
> > > > but I don't really get the point of declaring both ports when only one
> > > > of the two controllers is present.
> > > 
> > > If it's within an SoC I don't mind too much. What I usually insist on is
> > > declaring all ports even when no external devices are connected on the
> > > board. It may however be easier to implement things on the driver side
> > > when all the ports are declared, even for internal devices. I won't
> > > insist either way here.
> > > 
> > > > > By the way, how do you select at runtime which CSI-2 RX the ISP gets its
> > > > > image stream from ? Is it configured through registers of the ISP ?
> > > > 
> > > > Actually what the ISP gets is fully dependent on what is received by the
> > > > CSI controller it is connected to (which can be the mipi csi-2 controller
> > > > or its direct parallel pins), so the configuration happens on the CSI side.
> > > 
> > > OK, then how do you select at runtime which CSI the ISP gets its image
> > > stream from ? :-)
> > 
> > What is done in the driver is that all available csi(s) entities pads are linked
> > to a single csi sink media pad, which allows userspace to enable one or the
> > other. If there's only one, it's enabled by default.
> > 
> > The actual stream source (isp_dev->proc.source) is selected at link_validate
> > time and the source bit is set in sun6i_isp_proc_enable.
> > 
> > I hope this answers your question!
> 
> Yes it does, thank you.
> 
> While this works, it makes life a bit more complicated for userspace, as
> switching between the two sources require disabling the link first and
> then enabling the new one. This is something that caused issues in the
> libcamera simple pipeline handler, I ended up having to implement a
> workaround.

That surprises me a bit, I thought this was a typical use-case for links.
So the fact that it's a two-step process causes issues somehow?

> Could you instead have two sink pads for the ISP, and select the sensor
> at stream on time instead of link validation time by checking which link
> is enabled ? If no links or both links are enabled, you can then return
> an error.

Yes that's totally doable.

There's a similar situation with the sun6i-csi bridge where the source pad
has two possible links: one for routing to sun6i-csi capture (video device)
and one for routing to the isp entity.

Would that also be best represented as two pads?

> Ideally I'd say such internal routing should use the new V4L2 subdev
> routing API that is currently being implemented (see [1]), but I don't
> know when it will land, and I don't want to delay your patch series.
> 
> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-media/20211130141536.891878-28-tomi.valkeinen@ideasonboard.com

I'm still a bit confused what problem this is trying to solve.
My understanding was that the current pad/link API allows representing complex
topologies and switching different paths with link enable/disable.

Cheers,

Paul
 
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +required:
> > > > > > +  - compatible
> > > > > > +  - reg
> > > > > > +  - interrupts
> > > > > > +  - clocks
> > > > > > +  - clock-names
> > > > > > +  - resets
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +additionalProperties: false
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +examples:
> > > > > > +  - |
> > > > > > +    #include <dt-bindings/interrupt-controller/arm-gic.h>
> > > > > > +    #include <dt-bindings/clock/sun8i-v3s-ccu.h>
> > > > > > +    #include <dt-bindings/reset/sun8i-v3s-ccu.h>
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +    isp: isp@1cb8000 {
> > > > > > +        compatible = "allwinner,sun8i-v3s-isp";
> > > > > > +        reg = <0x01cb8000 0x1000>;
> > > > > > +        interrupts = <GIC_SPI 83 IRQ_TYPE_LEVEL_HIGH>;
> > > > > > +        clocks = <&ccu CLK_BUS_CSI>,
> > > > > > +             <&ccu CLK_CSI1_SCLK>,
> > > > > > +             <&ccu CLK_DRAM_CSI>;
> > > > > > +        clock-names = "bus", "mod", "ram";
> > > > > > +        resets = <&ccu RST_BUS_CSI>;
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +        ports {
> > > > > > +            #address-cells = <1>;
> > > > > > +            #size-cells = <0>;
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +            port@0 {
> > > > > > +                reg = <0>;
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +                isp_in_csi0: endpoint {
> > > > > > +                    remote-endpoint = <&csi0_out_isp>;
> > > > > > +                };
> > > > > > +            };
> > > > > > +        };
> > > > > > +    };
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +...
> 
> -- 
> Regards,
> 
> Laurent Pinchart
Laurent Pinchart March 4, 2022, 12:01 p.m. UTC | #11
Hi Paul,

On Tue, Mar 01, 2022 at 04:38:59PM +0100, Paul Kocialkowski wrote:
> On Tue 15 Feb 22, 12:16, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 11:10:52AM +0100, Paul Kocialkowski wrote:
> > > On Mon 14 Feb 22, 19:09, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 05:18:07PM +0100, Paul Kocialkowski wrote:
> > > > > On Mon 07 Feb 22, 17:51, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > > > > > On Sat, Feb 05, 2022 at 07:54:24PM +0100, Paul Kocialkowski wrote:
> > > > > > > This introduces YAML bindings documentation for the Allwinner A31 Image
> > > > > > > Signal Processor (ISP).
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Paul Kocialkowski <paul.kocialkowski@bootlin.com>
> > > > > > > ---
> > > > > > >  .../media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml        | 117 ++++++++++++++++++
> > > > > > >  1 file changed, 117 insertions(+)
> > > > > > >  create mode 100644 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml
> > > > > > > new file mode 100644
> > > > > > > index 000000000000..2d87022c43ce
> > > > > > > --- /dev/null
> > > > > > > +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml
> > > > > > > @@ -0,0 +1,117 @@
> > > > > > > +# SPDX-License-Identifier: (GPL-2.0 OR BSD-2-Clause)
> > > > > > > +%YAML 1.2
> > > > > > > +---
> > > > > > > +$id: http://devicetree.org/schemas/media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml#
> > > > > > > +$schema: http://devicetree.org/meta-schemas/core.yaml#
> > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > +title: Allwinner A31 Image Signal Processor Driver (ISP) Device Tree Bindings
> > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > +maintainers:
> > > > > > > +  - Paul Kocialkowski <paul.kocialkowski@bootlin.com>
> > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > +properties:
> > > > > > > +  compatible:
> > > > > > > +    enum:
> > > > > > > +      - allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp
> > > > > > > +      - allwinner,sun8i-v3s-isp
> > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > +  reg:
> > > > > > > +    maxItems: 1
> > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > +  interrupts:
> > > > > > > +    maxItems: 1
> > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > +  clocks:
> > > > > > > +    items:
> > > > > > > +      - description: Bus Clock
> > > > > > > +      - description: Module Clock
> > > > > > > +      - description: DRAM Clock
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > That's interesting, does the ISP have a dedicated DRAM ?
> > > > > 
> > > > > It doesn't, it actually uses the main DRAM with the "mbus" interconnect.
> > > > > The clock is probably for the DMA engine.
> > > > > 
> > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > +  clock-names:
> > > > > > > +    items:
> > > > > > > +      - const: bus
> > > > > > > +      - const: mod
> > > > > > > +      - const: ram
> > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > +  resets:
> > > > > > > +    maxItems: 1
> > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > +  ports:
> > > > > > > +    $ref: /schemas/graph.yaml#/properties/ports
> > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > +    properties:
> > > > > > > +      port@0:
> > > > > > > +        $ref: /schemas/graph.yaml#/$defs/port-base
> > > > > > > +        description: CSI0 input port
> > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > +        properties:
> > > > > > > +          reg:
> > > > > > > +            const: 0
> > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > +          endpoint:
> > > > > > > +            $ref: video-interfaces.yaml#
> > > > > > > +            unevaluatedProperties: false
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > If no other property than remote-endpoint are allowed, I'd write
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >           endpoint:
> > > > > >             $ref: video-interfaces.yaml#
> > > > > > 	    remote-endpoint: true
> > > > > >             additionalProperties: false
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Same below.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > +        additionalProperties: false
> > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > +      port@1:
> > > > > > > +        $ref: /schemas/graph.yaml#/$defs/port-base
> > > > > > > +        description: CSI1 input port
> > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > +        properties:
> > > > > > > +          reg:
> > > > > > > +            const: 0
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > This should be 1.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Correct, thanks!
> > > > > 
> > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > +          endpoint:
> > > > > > > +            $ref: video-interfaces.yaml#
> > > > > > > +            unevaluatedProperties: false
> > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > +        additionalProperties: false
> > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > +    anyOf:
> > > > > > > +      - required:
> > > > > > > +        - port@0
> > > > > > > +      - required:
> > > > > > > +        - port@1
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > As ports are an intrinsic property of the ISP, both should be required,
> > > > > > but they don't have to be connected.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Well the ISP does have the ability to source from either CSI0 and CSI1
> > > > > but I don't really get the point of declaring both ports when only one
> > > > > of the two controllers is present.
> > > > 
> > > > If it's within an SoC I don't mind too much. What I usually insist on is
> > > > declaring all ports even when no external devices are connected on the
> > > > board. It may however be easier to implement things on the driver side
> > > > when all the ports are declared, even for internal devices. I won't
> > > > insist either way here.
> > > > 
> > > > > > By the way, how do you select at runtime which CSI-2 RX the ISP gets its
> > > > > > image stream from ? Is it configured through registers of the ISP ?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Actually what the ISP gets is fully dependent on what is received by the
> > > > > CSI controller it is connected to (which can be the mipi csi-2 controller
> > > > > or its direct parallel pins), so the configuration happens on the CSI side.
> > > > 
> > > > OK, then how do you select at runtime which CSI the ISP gets its image
> > > > stream from ? :-)
> > > 
> > > What is done in the driver is that all available csi(s) entities pads are linked
> > > to a single csi sink media pad, which allows userspace to enable one or the
> > > other. If there's only one, it's enabled by default.
> > > 
> > > The actual stream source (isp_dev->proc.source) is selected at link_validate
> > > time and the source bit is set in sun6i_isp_proc_enable.
> > > 
> > > I hope this answers your question!
> > 
> > Yes it does, thank you.
> > 
> > While this works, it makes life a bit more complicated for userspace, as
> > switching between the two sources require disabling the link first and
> > then enabling the new one. This is something that caused issues in the
> > libcamera simple pipeline handler, I ended up having to implement a
> > workaround.
> 
> That surprises me a bit, I thought this was a typical use-case for links.
> So the fact that it's a two-step process causes issues somehow?

It's not so much that the links have to be configured in two steps
(although it would be nice if that could be fixed), but the fact that
the order of the operations matter. Userspace has to know what
combination of links is acceptable in order to determine the order of
the enable/disable operations, otherwise errors may be returned. That
makes it more difficult to write generic userspace code.

> > Could you instead have two sink pads for the ISP, and select the sensor
> > at stream on time instead of link validation time by checking which link
> > is enabled ? If no links or both links are enabled, you can then return
> > an error.
> 
> Yes that's totally doable.
> 
> There's a similar situation with the sun6i-csi bridge where the source pad
> has two possible links: one for routing to sun6i-csi capture (video device)
> and one for routing to the isp entity.
> 
> Would that also be best represented as two pads?

Are the two outputs mutually exclusive ? Sorry if I've asked before.

> > Ideally I'd say such internal routing should use the new V4L2 subdev
> > routing API that is currently being implemented (see [1]), but I don't
> > know when it will land, and I don't want to delay your patch series.
> > 
> > [1] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-media/20211130141536.891878-28-tomi.valkeinen@ideasonboard.com
> 
> I'm still a bit confused what problem this is trying to solve.
> My understanding was that the current pad/link API allows representing complex
> topologies and switching different paths with link enable/disable.

That was the intent of the MEDIA_IOC_SETUP_LINK ioctl, but we ended up
with something that is fairly ill-defined, and doesn't have the ability
to set multiple links atomically. It turned out to be less usable for
userspace than expected. Mistakes happen (and I'll blame myself here,
having designed that API) when we don't have real test cases during
kernel development.

> > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > +required:
> > > > > > > +  - compatible
> > > > > > > +  - reg
> > > > > > > +  - interrupts
> > > > > > > +  - clocks
> > > > > > > +  - clock-names
> > > > > > > +  - resets
> > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > +additionalProperties: false
> > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > +examples:
> > > > > > > +  - |
> > > > > > > +    #include <dt-bindings/interrupt-controller/arm-gic.h>
> > > > > > > +    #include <dt-bindings/clock/sun8i-v3s-ccu.h>
> > > > > > > +    #include <dt-bindings/reset/sun8i-v3s-ccu.h>
> > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > +    isp: isp@1cb8000 {
> > > > > > > +        compatible = "allwinner,sun8i-v3s-isp";
> > > > > > > +        reg = <0x01cb8000 0x1000>;
> > > > > > > +        interrupts = <GIC_SPI 83 IRQ_TYPE_LEVEL_HIGH>;
> > > > > > > +        clocks = <&ccu CLK_BUS_CSI>,
> > > > > > > +             <&ccu CLK_CSI1_SCLK>,
> > > > > > > +             <&ccu CLK_DRAM_CSI>;
> > > > > > > +        clock-names = "bus", "mod", "ram";
> > > > > > > +        resets = <&ccu RST_BUS_CSI>;
> > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > +        ports {
> > > > > > > +            #address-cells = <1>;
> > > > > > > +            #size-cells = <0>;
> > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > +            port@0 {
> > > > > > > +                reg = <0>;
> > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > +                isp_in_csi0: endpoint {
> > > > > > > +                    remote-endpoint = <&csi0_out_isp>;
> > > > > > > +                };
> > > > > > > +            };
> > > > > > > +        };
> > > > > > > +    };
> > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > +...
Paul Kocialkowski March 4, 2022, 1:57 p.m. UTC | #12
Hi Laurent,

On Fri 04 Mar 22, 14:01, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 01, 2022 at 04:38:59PM +0100, Paul Kocialkowski wrote:
> > On Tue 15 Feb 22, 12:16, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > > On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 11:10:52AM +0100, Paul Kocialkowski wrote:
> > > > On Mon 14 Feb 22, 19:09, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > > > > On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 05:18:07PM +0100, Paul Kocialkowski wrote:
> > > > > > On Mon 07 Feb 22, 17:51, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > > > > > > On Sat, Feb 05, 2022 at 07:54:24PM +0100, Paul Kocialkowski wrote:
> > > > > > > > This introduces YAML bindings documentation for the Allwinner A31 Image
> > > > > > > > Signal Processor (ISP).
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Paul Kocialkowski <paul.kocialkowski@bootlin.com>
> > > > > > > > ---
> > > > > > > >  .../media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml        | 117 ++++++++++++++++++
> > > > > > > >  1 file changed, 117 insertions(+)
> > > > > > > >  create mode 100644 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml
> > > > > > > > new file mode 100644
> > > > > > > > index 000000000000..2d87022c43ce
> > > > > > > > --- /dev/null
> > > > > > > > +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml
> > > > > > > > @@ -0,0 +1,117 @@
> > > > > > > > +# SPDX-License-Identifier: (GPL-2.0 OR BSD-2-Clause)
> > > > > > > > +%YAML 1.2
> > > > > > > > +---
> > > > > > > > +$id: http://devicetree.org/schemas/media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml#
> > > > > > > > +$schema: http://devicetree.org/meta-schemas/core.yaml#
> > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > +title: Allwinner A31 Image Signal Processor Driver (ISP) Device Tree Bindings
> > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > +maintainers:
> > > > > > > > +  - Paul Kocialkowski <paul.kocialkowski@bootlin.com>
> > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > +properties:
> > > > > > > > +  compatible:
> > > > > > > > +    enum:
> > > > > > > > +      - allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp
> > > > > > > > +      - allwinner,sun8i-v3s-isp
> > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > +  reg:
> > > > > > > > +    maxItems: 1
> > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > +  interrupts:
> > > > > > > > +    maxItems: 1
> > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > +  clocks:
> > > > > > > > +    items:
> > > > > > > > +      - description: Bus Clock
> > > > > > > > +      - description: Module Clock
> > > > > > > > +      - description: DRAM Clock
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > That's interesting, does the ISP have a dedicated DRAM ?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > It doesn't, it actually uses the main DRAM with the "mbus" interconnect.
> > > > > > The clock is probably for the DMA engine.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > +  clock-names:
> > > > > > > > +    items:
> > > > > > > > +      - const: bus
> > > > > > > > +      - const: mod
> > > > > > > > +      - const: ram
> > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > +  resets:
> > > > > > > > +    maxItems: 1
> > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > +  ports:
> > > > > > > > +    $ref: /schemas/graph.yaml#/properties/ports
> > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > +    properties:
> > > > > > > > +      port@0:
> > > > > > > > +        $ref: /schemas/graph.yaml#/$defs/port-base
> > > > > > > > +        description: CSI0 input port
> > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > +        properties:
> > > > > > > > +          reg:
> > > > > > > > +            const: 0
> > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > +          endpoint:
> > > > > > > > +            $ref: video-interfaces.yaml#
> > > > > > > > +            unevaluatedProperties: false
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > If no other property than remote-endpoint are allowed, I'd write
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >           endpoint:
> > > > > > >             $ref: video-interfaces.yaml#
> > > > > > > 	    remote-endpoint: true
> > > > > > >             additionalProperties: false
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Same below.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > +        additionalProperties: false
> > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > +      port@1:
> > > > > > > > +        $ref: /schemas/graph.yaml#/$defs/port-base
> > > > > > > > +        description: CSI1 input port
> > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > +        properties:
> > > > > > > > +          reg:
> > > > > > > > +            const: 0
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > This should be 1.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Correct, thanks!
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > +          endpoint:
> > > > > > > > +            $ref: video-interfaces.yaml#
> > > > > > > > +            unevaluatedProperties: false
> > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > +        additionalProperties: false
> > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > +    anyOf:
> > > > > > > > +      - required:
> > > > > > > > +        - port@0
> > > > > > > > +      - required:
> > > > > > > > +        - port@1
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > As ports are an intrinsic property of the ISP, both should be required,
> > > > > > > but they don't have to be connected.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Well the ISP does have the ability to source from either CSI0 and CSI1
> > > > > > but I don't really get the point of declaring both ports when only one
> > > > > > of the two controllers is present.
> > > > > 
> > > > > If it's within an SoC I don't mind too much. What I usually insist on is
> > > > > declaring all ports even when no external devices are connected on the
> > > > > board. It may however be easier to implement things on the driver side
> > > > > when all the ports are declared, even for internal devices. I won't
> > > > > insist either way here.
> > > > > 
> > > > > > > By the way, how do you select at runtime which CSI-2 RX the ISP gets its
> > > > > > > image stream from ? Is it configured through registers of the ISP ?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Actually what the ISP gets is fully dependent on what is received by the
> > > > > > CSI controller it is connected to (which can be the mipi csi-2 controller
> > > > > > or its direct parallel pins), so the configuration happens on the CSI side.
> > > > > 
> > > > > OK, then how do you select at runtime which CSI the ISP gets its image
> > > > > stream from ? :-)
> > > > 
> > > > What is done in the driver is that all available csi(s) entities pads are linked
> > > > to a single csi sink media pad, which allows userspace to enable one or the
> > > > other. If there's only one, it's enabled by default.
> > > > 
> > > > The actual stream source (isp_dev->proc.source) is selected at link_validate
> > > > time and the source bit is set in sun6i_isp_proc_enable.
> > > > 
> > > > I hope this answers your question!
> > > 
> > > Yes it does, thank you.
> > > 
> > > While this works, it makes life a bit more complicated for userspace, as
> > > switching between the two sources require disabling the link first and
> > > then enabling the new one. This is something that caused issues in the
> > > libcamera simple pipeline handler, I ended up having to implement a
> > > workaround.
> > 
> > That surprises me a bit, I thought this was a typical use-case for links.
> > So the fact that it's a two-step process causes issues somehow?
> 
> It's not so much that the links have to be configured in two steps
> (although it would be nice if that could be fixed), but the fact that
> the order of the operations matter. Userspace has to know what
> combination of links is acceptable in order to determine the order of
> the enable/disable operations, otherwise errors may be returned. That
> makes it more difficult to write generic userspace code.

Ah right, I understand that. Now it's pretty much trial-and-error if userspace
doesn't have prior knowledge about the hardware. But to be honest I assumed
that it was more or less understood that there cannot be fully generic
userspace for this and that knowedlege about the driver and pipeline flow
is required to do things right.

> > > Could you instead have two sink pads for the ISP, and select the sensor
> > > at stream on time instead of link validation time by checking which link
> > > is enabled ? If no links or both links are enabled, you can then return
> > > an error.
> > 
> > Yes that's totally doable.
> > 
> > There's a similar situation with the sun6i-csi bridge where the source pad
> > has two possible links: one for routing to sun6i-csi capture (video device)
> > and one for routing to the isp entity.
> > 
> > Would that also be best represented as two pads?
> 
> Are the two outputs mutually exclusive ? Sorry if I've asked before.

I don't think you have. Yes they are mutually exclusive, only one source
can be selected at a time. Same situation as the ISP where the two CSI unit
inputs are mutually exclusive.

> > > Ideally I'd say such internal routing should use the new V4L2 subdev
> > > routing API that is currently being implemented (see [1]), but I don't
> > > know when it will land, and I don't want to delay your patch series.
> > > 
> > > [1] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-media/20211130141536.891878-28-tomi.valkeinen@ideasonboard.com
> > 
> > I'm still a bit confused what problem this is trying to solve.
> > My understanding was that the current pad/link API allows representing complex
> > topologies and switching different paths with link enable/disable.
> 
> That was the intent of the MEDIA_IOC_SETUP_LINK ioctl, but we ended up
> with something that is fairly ill-defined, and doesn't have the ability
> to set multiple links atomically. It turned out to be less usable for
> userspace than expected. Mistakes happen (and I'll blame myself here,
> having designed that API) when we don't have real test cases during
> kernel development.

Yeah it's hard to predict these kinds of things in advance I suppose.
Thanks for the heads up!

Paul

> > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > +required:
> > > > > > > > +  - compatible
> > > > > > > > +  - reg
> > > > > > > > +  - interrupts
> > > > > > > > +  - clocks
> > > > > > > > +  - clock-names
> > > > > > > > +  - resets
> > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > +additionalProperties: false
> > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > +examples:
> > > > > > > > +  - |
> > > > > > > > +    #include <dt-bindings/interrupt-controller/arm-gic.h>
> > > > > > > > +    #include <dt-bindings/clock/sun8i-v3s-ccu.h>
> > > > > > > > +    #include <dt-bindings/reset/sun8i-v3s-ccu.h>
> > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > +    isp: isp@1cb8000 {
> > > > > > > > +        compatible = "allwinner,sun8i-v3s-isp";
> > > > > > > > +        reg = <0x01cb8000 0x1000>;
> > > > > > > > +        interrupts = <GIC_SPI 83 IRQ_TYPE_LEVEL_HIGH>;
> > > > > > > > +        clocks = <&ccu CLK_BUS_CSI>,
> > > > > > > > +             <&ccu CLK_CSI1_SCLK>,
> > > > > > > > +             <&ccu CLK_DRAM_CSI>;
> > > > > > > > +        clock-names = "bus", "mod", "ram";
> > > > > > > > +        resets = <&ccu RST_BUS_CSI>;
> > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > +        ports {
> > > > > > > > +            #address-cells = <1>;
> > > > > > > > +            #size-cells = <0>;
> > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > +            port@0 {
> > > > > > > > +                reg = <0>;
> > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > +                isp_in_csi0: endpoint {
> > > > > > > > +                    remote-endpoint = <&csi0_out_isp>;
> > > > > > > > +                };
> > > > > > > > +            };
> > > > > > > > +        };
> > > > > > > > +    };
> > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > +...
> 
> -- 
> Regards,
> 
> Laurent Pinchart
Laurent Pinchart March 4, 2022, 2:09 p.m. UTC | #13
Hi Paul,

(With a question for Sakari below)

On Fri, Mar 04, 2022 at 02:57:41PM +0100, Paul Kocialkowski wrote:
> On Fri 04 Mar 22, 14:01, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 01, 2022 at 04:38:59PM +0100, Paul Kocialkowski wrote:
> > > On Tue 15 Feb 22, 12:16, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 11:10:52AM +0100, Paul Kocialkowski wrote:
> > > > > On Mon 14 Feb 22, 19:09, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > > > > > On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 05:18:07PM +0100, Paul Kocialkowski wrote:
> > > > > > > On Mon 07 Feb 22, 17:51, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Sat, Feb 05, 2022 at 07:54:24PM +0100, Paul Kocialkowski wrote:
> > > > > > > > > This introduces YAML bindings documentation for the Allwinner A31 Image
> > > > > > > > > Signal Processor (ISP).
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Paul Kocialkowski <paul.kocialkowski@bootlin.com>
> > > > > > > > > ---
> > > > > > > > >  .../media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml        | 117 ++++++++++++++++++
> > > > > > > > >  1 file changed, 117 insertions(+)
> > > > > > > > >  create mode 100644 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml
> > > > > > > > > new file mode 100644
> > > > > > > > > index 000000000000..2d87022c43ce
> > > > > > > > > --- /dev/null
> > > > > > > > > +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml
> > > > > > > > > @@ -0,0 +1,117 @@
> > > > > > > > > +# SPDX-License-Identifier: (GPL-2.0 OR BSD-2-Clause)
> > > > > > > > > +%YAML 1.2
> > > > > > > > > +---
> > > > > > > > > +$id: http://devicetree.org/schemas/media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml#
> > > > > > > > > +$schema: http://devicetree.org/meta-schemas/core.yaml#
> > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > +title: Allwinner A31 Image Signal Processor Driver (ISP) Device Tree Bindings
> > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > +maintainers:
> > > > > > > > > +  - Paul Kocialkowski <paul.kocialkowski@bootlin.com>
> > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > +properties:
> > > > > > > > > +  compatible:
> > > > > > > > > +    enum:
> > > > > > > > > +      - allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp
> > > > > > > > > +      - allwinner,sun8i-v3s-isp
> > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > +  reg:
> > > > > > > > > +    maxItems: 1
> > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > +  interrupts:
> > > > > > > > > +    maxItems: 1
> > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > +  clocks:
> > > > > > > > > +    items:
> > > > > > > > > +      - description: Bus Clock
> > > > > > > > > +      - description: Module Clock
> > > > > > > > > +      - description: DRAM Clock
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > That's interesting, does the ISP have a dedicated DRAM ?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > It doesn't, it actually uses the main DRAM with the "mbus" interconnect.
> > > > > > > The clock is probably for the DMA engine.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > +  clock-names:
> > > > > > > > > +    items:
> > > > > > > > > +      - const: bus
> > > > > > > > > +      - const: mod
> > > > > > > > > +      - const: ram
> > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > +  resets:
> > > > > > > > > +    maxItems: 1
> > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > +  ports:
> > > > > > > > > +    $ref: /schemas/graph.yaml#/properties/ports
> > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > +    properties:
> > > > > > > > > +      port@0:
> > > > > > > > > +        $ref: /schemas/graph.yaml#/$defs/port-base
> > > > > > > > > +        description: CSI0 input port
> > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > +        properties:
> > > > > > > > > +          reg:
> > > > > > > > > +            const: 0
> > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > +          endpoint:
> > > > > > > > > +            $ref: video-interfaces.yaml#
> > > > > > > > > +            unevaluatedProperties: false
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > If no other property than remote-endpoint are allowed, I'd write
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >           endpoint:
> > > > > > > >             $ref: video-interfaces.yaml#
> > > > > > > > 	    remote-endpoint: true
> > > > > > > >             additionalProperties: false
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Same below.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > +        additionalProperties: false
> > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > +      port@1:
> > > > > > > > > +        $ref: /schemas/graph.yaml#/$defs/port-base
> > > > > > > > > +        description: CSI1 input port
> > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > +        properties:
> > > > > > > > > +          reg:
> > > > > > > > > +            const: 0
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > This should be 1.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Correct, thanks!
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > +          endpoint:
> > > > > > > > > +            $ref: video-interfaces.yaml#
> > > > > > > > > +            unevaluatedProperties: false
> > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > +        additionalProperties: false
> > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > +    anyOf:
> > > > > > > > > +      - required:
> > > > > > > > > +        - port@0
> > > > > > > > > +      - required:
> > > > > > > > > +        - port@1
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > As ports are an intrinsic property of the ISP, both should be required,
> > > > > > > > but they don't have to be connected.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Well the ISP does have the ability to source from either CSI0 and CSI1
> > > > > > > but I don't really get the point of declaring both ports when only one
> > > > > > > of the two controllers is present.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > If it's within an SoC I don't mind too much. What I usually insist on is
> > > > > > declaring all ports even when no external devices are connected on the
> > > > > > board. It may however be easier to implement things on the driver side
> > > > > > when all the ports are declared, even for internal devices. I won't
> > > > > > insist either way here.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > By the way, how do you select at runtime which CSI-2 RX the ISP gets its
> > > > > > > > image stream from ? Is it configured through registers of the ISP ?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Actually what the ISP gets is fully dependent on what is received by the
> > > > > > > CSI controller it is connected to (which can be the mipi csi-2 controller
> > > > > > > or its direct parallel pins), so the configuration happens on the CSI side.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > OK, then how do you select at runtime which CSI the ISP gets its image
> > > > > > stream from ? :-)
> > > > > 
> > > > > What is done in the driver is that all available csi(s) entities pads are linked
> > > > > to a single csi sink media pad, which allows userspace to enable one or the
> > > > > other. If there's only one, it's enabled by default.
> > > > > 
> > > > > The actual stream source (isp_dev->proc.source) is selected at link_validate
> > > > > time and the source bit is set in sun6i_isp_proc_enable.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I hope this answers your question!
> > > > 
> > > > Yes it does, thank you.
> > > > 
> > > > While this works, it makes life a bit more complicated for userspace, as
> > > > switching between the two sources require disabling the link first and
> > > > then enabling the new one. This is something that caused issues in the
> > > > libcamera simple pipeline handler, I ended up having to implement a
> > > > workaround.
> > > 
> > > That surprises me a bit, I thought this was a typical use-case for links.
> > > So the fact that it's a two-step process causes issues somehow?
> > 
> > It's not so much that the links have to be configured in two steps
> > (although it would be nice if that could be fixed), but the fact that
> > the order of the operations matter. Userspace has to know what
> > combination of links is acceptable in order to determine the order of
> > the enable/disable operations, otherwise errors may be returned. That
> > makes it more difficult to write generic userspace code.
> 
> Ah right, I understand that. Now it's pretty much trial-and-error if userspace
> doesn't have prior knowledge about the hardware. But to be honest I assumed
> that it was more or less understood that there cannot be fully generic
> userspace for this and that knowedlege about the driver and pipeline flow
> is required to do things right.

You're right, and that's why we have device-specific code in libcamera.
However, the more generic-friendly the APIs can be, the more the
device-specific userspace code will be able to use generic helpers, so
it still matters.

> > > > Could you instead have two sink pads for the ISP, and select the sensor
> > > > at stream on time instead of link validation time by checking which link
> > > > is enabled ? If no links or both links are enabled, you can then return
> > > > an error.
> > > 
> > > Yes that's totally doable.
> > > 
> > > There's a similar situation with the sun6i-csi bridge where the source pad
> > > has two possible links: one for routing to sun6i-csi capture (video device)
> > > and one for routing to the isp entity.
> > > 
> > > Would that also be best represented as two pads?
> > 
> > Are the two outputs mutually exclusive ? Sorry if I've asked before.
> 
> I don't think you have. Yes they are mutually exclusive, only one source
> can be selected at a time. Same situation as the ISP where the two CSI unit
> inputs are mutually exclusive.

On the sink (input) side that's quite common, if you have two different
sources but a single sink, the sink can't (usually) process both sources
at the same time. I understand that for the sun6i-csi bridge it's the
other way around, with the bridge can output to either a DMA engine or
to the ISP, but not both at the same time. That's less common, but can
certainly happen. I think I'd go for two source pads in that case too.
Sakari, any opinion ?

> > > > Ideally I'd say such internal routing should use the new V4L2 subdev
> > > > routing API that is currently being implemented (see [1]), but I don't
> > > > know when it will land, and I don't want to delay your patch series.
> > > > 
> > > > [1] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-media/20211130141536.891878-28-tomi.valkeinen@ideasonboard.com
> > > 
> > > I'm still a bit confused what problem this is trying to solve.
> > > My understanding was that the current pad/link API allows representing complex
> > > topologies and switching different paths with link enable/disable.
> > 
> > That was the intent of the MEDIA_IOC_SETUP_LINK ioctl, but we ended up
> > with something that is fairly ill-defined, and doesn't have the ability
> > to set multiple links atomically. It turned out to be less usable for
> > userspace than expected. Mistakes happen (and I'll blame myself here,
> > having designed that API) when we don't have real test cases during
> > kernel development.
> 
> Yeah it's hard to predict these kinds of things in advance I suppose.
> Thanks for the heads up!
> 
> > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > +required:
> > > > > > > > > +  - compatible
> > > > > > > > > +  - reg
> > > > > > > > > +  - interrupts
> > > > > > > > > +  - clocks
> > > > > > > > > +  - clock-names
> > > > > > > > > +  - resets
> > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > +additionalProperties: false
> > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > +examples:
> > > > > > > > > +  - |
> > > > > > > > > +    #include <dt-bindings/interrupt-controller/arm-gic.h>
> > > > > > > > > +    #include <dt-bindings/clock/sun8i-v3s-ccu.h>
> > > > > > > > > +    #include <dt-bindings/reset/sun8i-v3s-ccu.h>
> > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > +    isp: isp@1cb8000 {
> > > > > > > > > +        compatible = "allwinner,sun8i-v3s-isp";
> > > > > > > > > +        reg = <0x01cb8000 0x1000>;
> > > > > > > > > +        interrupts = <GIC_SPI 83 IRQ_TYPE_LEVEL_HIGH>;
> > > > > > > > > +        clocks = <&ccu CLK_BUS_CSI>,
> > > > > > > > > +             <&ccu CLK_CSI1_SCLK>,
> > > > > > > > > +             <&ccu CLK_DRAM_CSI>;
> > > > > > > > > +        clock-names = "bus", "mod", "ram";
> > > > > > > > > +        resets = <&ccu RST_BUS_CSI>;
> > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > +        ports {
> > > > > > > > > +            #address-cells = <1>;
> > > > > > > > > +            #size-cells = <0>;
> > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > +            port@0 {
> > > > > > > > > +                reg = <0>;
> > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > +                isp_in_csi0: endpoint {
> > > > > > > > > +                    remote-endpoint = <&csi0_out_isp>;
> > > > > > > > > +                };
> > > > > > > > > +            };
> > > > > > > > > +        };
> > > > > > > > > +    };
> > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > +...
Paul Kocialkowski March 11, 2022, 2:17 p.m. UTC | #14
Hi Laurent,

On Fri 04 Mar 22, 16:09, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> Hi Paul,
> 
> (With a question for Sakari below)
> 
> On Fri, Mar 04, 2022 at 02:57:41PM +0100, Paul Kocialkowski wrote:
> > On Fri 04 Mar 22, 14:01, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > > On Tue, Mar 01, 2022 at 04:38:59PM +0100, Paul Kocialkowski wrote:
> > > > On Tue 15 Feb 22, 12:16, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > > > > On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 11:10:52AM +0100, Paul Kocialkowski wrote:
> > > > > > On Mon 14 Feb 22, 19:09, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 05:18:07PM +0100, Paul Kocialkowski wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Mon 07 Feb 22, 17:51, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Sat, Feb 05, 2022 at 07:54:24PM +0100, Paul Kocialkowski wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > This introduces YAML bindings documentation for the Allwinner A31 Image
> > > > > > > > > > Signal Processor (ISP).
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Paul Kocialkowski <paul.kocialkowski@bootlin.com>
> > > > > > > > > > ---
> > > > > > > > > >  .../media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml        | 117 ++++++++++++++++++
> > > > > > > > > >  1 file changed, 117 insertions(+)
> > > > > > > > > >  create mode 100644 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml
> > > > > > > > > > new file mode 100644
> > > > > > > > > > index 000000000000..2d87022c43ce
> > > > > > > > > > --- /dev/null
> > > > > > > > > > +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml
> > > > > > > > > > @@ -0,0 +1,117 @@
> > > > > > > > > > +# SPDX-License-Identifier: (GPL-2.0 OR BSD-2-Clause)
> > > > > > > > > > +%YAML 1.2
> > > > > > > > > > +---
> > > > > > > > > > +$id: http://devicetree.org/schemas/media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml#
> > > > > > > > > > +$schema: http://devicetree.org/meta-schemas/core.yaml#
> > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > +title: Allwinner A31 Image Signal Processor Driver (ISP) Device Tree Bindings
> > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > +maintainers:
> > > > > > > > > > +  - Paul Kocialkowski <paul.kocialkowski@bootlin.com>
> > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > +properties:
> > > > > > > > > > +  compatible:
> > > > > > > > > > +    enum:
> > > > > > > > > > +      - allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp
> > > > > > > > > > +      - allwinner,sun8i-v3s-isp
> > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > +  reg:
> > > > > > > > > > +    maxItems: 1
> > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > +  interrupts:
> > > > > > > > > > +    maxItems: 1
> > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > +  clocks:
> > > > > > > > > > +    items:
> > > > > > > > > > +      - description: Bus Clock
> > > > > > > > > > +      - description: Module Clock
> > > > > > > > > > +      - description: DRAM Clock
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > That's interesting, does the ISP have a dedicated DRAM ?
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > It doesn't, it actually uses the main DRAM with the "mbus" interconnect.
> > > > > > > > The clock is probably for the DMA engine.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > +  clock-names:
> > > > > > > > > > +    items:
> > > > > > > > > > +      - const: bus
> > > > > > > > > > +      - const: mod
> > > > > > > > > > +      - const: ram
> > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > +  resets:
> > > > > > > > > > +    maxItems: 1
> > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > +  ports:
> > > > > > > > > > +    $ref: /schemas/graph.yaml#/properties/ports
> > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > +    properties:
> > > > > > > > > > +      port@0:
> > > > > > > > > > +        $ref: /schemas/graph.yaml#/$defs/port-base
> > > > > > > > > > +        description: CSI0 input port
> > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > +        properties:
> > > > > > > > > > +          reg:
> > > > > > > > > > +            const: 0
> > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > +          endpoint:
> > > > > > > > > > +            $ref: video-interfaces.yaml#
> > > > > > > > > > +            unevaluatedProperties: false
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > If no other property than remote-endpoint are allowed, I'd write
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >           endpoint:
> > > > > > > > >             $ref: video-interfaces.yaml#
> > > > > > > > > 	    remote-endpoint: true
> > > > > > > > >             additionalProperties: false
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Same below.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > +        additionalProperties: false
> > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > +      port@1:
> > > > > > > > > > +        $ref: /schemas/graph.yaml#/$defs/port-base
> > > > > > > > > > +        description: CSI1 input port
> > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > +        properties:
> > > > > > > > > > +          reg:
> > > > > > > > > > +            const: 0
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > This should be 1.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Correct, thanks!
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > +          endpoint:
> > > > > > > > > > +            $ref: video-interfaces.yaml#
> > > > > > > > > > +            unevaluatedProperties: false
> > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > +        additionalProperties: false
> > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > +    anyOf:
> > > > > > > > > > +      - required:
> > > > > > > > > > +        - port@0
> > > > > > > > > > +      - required:
> > > > > > > > > > +        - port@1
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > As ports are an intrinsic property of the ISP, both should be required,
> > > > > > > > > but they don't have to be connected.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Well the ISP does have the ability to source from either CSI0 and CSI1
> > > > > > > > but I don't really get the point of declaring both ports when only one
> > > > > > > > of the two controllers is present.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > If it's within an SoC I don't mind too much. What I usually insist on is
> > > > > > > declaring all ports even when no external devices are connected on the
> > > > > > > board. It may however be easier to implement things on the driver side
> > > > > > > when all the ports are declared, even for internal devices. I won't
> > > > > > > insist either way here.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > By the way, how do you select at runtime which CSI-2 RX the ISP gets its
> > > > > > > > > image stream from ? Is it configured through registers of the ISP ?
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Actually what the ISP gets is fully dependent on what is received by the
> > > > > > > > CSI controller it is connected to (which can be the mipi csi-2 controller
> > > > > > > > or its direct parallel pins), so the configuration happens on the CSI side.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > OK, then how do you select at runtime which CSI the ISP gets its image
> > > > > > > stream from ? :-)
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > What is done in the driver is that all available csi(s) entities pads are linked
> > > > > > to a single csi sink media pad, which allows userspace to enable one or the
> > > > > > other. If there's only one, it's enabled by default.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > The actual stream source (isp_dev->proc.source) is selected at link_validate
> > > > > > time and the source bit is set in sun6i_isp_proc_enable.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I hope this answers your question!
> > > > > 
> > > > > Yes it does, thank you.
> > > > > 
> > > > > While this works, it makes life a bit more complicated for userspace, as
> > > > > switching between the two sources require disabling the link first and
> > > > > then enabling the new one. This is something that caused issues in the
> > > > > libcamera simple pipeline handler, I ended up having to implement a
> > > > > workaround.
> > > > 
> > > > That surprises me a bit, I thought this was a typical use-case for links.
> > > > So the fact that it's a two-step process causes issues somehow?
> > > 
> > > It's not so much that the links have to be configured in two steps
> > > (although it would be nice if that could be fixed), but the fact that
> > > the order of the operations matter. Userspace has to know what
> > > combination of links is acceptable in order to determine the order of
> > > the enable/disable operations, otherwise errors may be returned. That
> > > makes it more difficult to write generic userspace code.
> > 
> > Ah right, I understand that. Now it's pretty much trial-and-error if userspace
> > doesn't have prior knowledge about the hardware. But to be honest I assumed
> > that it was more or less understood that there cannot be fully generic
> > userspace for this and that knowedlege about the driver and pipeline flow
> > is required to do things right.
> 
> You're right, and that's why we have device-specific code in libcamera.
> However, the more generic-friendly the APIs can be, the more the
> device-specific userspace code will be able to use generic helpers, so
> it still matters.
> 
> > > > > Could you instead have two sink pads for the ISP, and select the sensor
> > > > > at stream on time instead of link validation time by checking which link
> > > > > is enabled ? If no links or both links are enabled, you can then return
> > > > > an error.
> > > > 
> > > > Yes that's totally doable.
> > > > 
> > > > There's a similar situation with the sun6i-csi bridge where the source pad
> > > > has two possible links: one for routing to sun6i-csi capture (video device)
> > > > and one for routing to the isp entity.
> > > > 
> > > > Would that also be best represented as two pads?
> > > 
> > > Are the two outputs mutually exclusive ? Sorry if I've asked before.
> > 
> > I don't think you have. Yes they are mutually exclusive, only one source
> > can be selected at a time. Same situation as the ISP where the two CSI unit
> > inputs are mutually exclusive.
> 
> On the sink (input) side that's quite common, if you have two different
> sources but a single sink, the sink can't (usually) process both sources
> at the same time. I understand that for the sun6i-csi bridge it's the
> other way around, with the bridge can output to either a DMA engine or
> to the ISP, but not both at the same time. That's less common, but can
> certainly happen. I think I'd go for two source pads in that case too.
> Sakari, any opinion ?

As I was reading this thread again, I think there might be a misunderstanding
here when you said that "switching between the two sources require disabling
the link first and then enabling the new one".

The driver is currently not checking the validity of the setup at link_setup
but at link_validate (which is called at streamon time), so userspace can
effectively disable/enable links in whichever order and a valid setup is only
required when streaming starts. I think that's already the situation that you
want to achieve.

To summarize, the following pads can have multiple links:
- csi sink (parallel sensor source or mipi csi-2 bridge source)
- csi source (isp sink or video capture sink)
- isp sink (csi0 source or csi1 source)

I'll send my next versions without changes (one pad, multiple links)
but we can revisit this if there's an issue with that after all.

Cheers,

Paul

> > > > > Ideally I'd say such internal routing should use the new V4L2 subdev
> > > > > routing API that is currently being implemented (see [1]), but I don't
> > > > > know when it will land, and I don't want to delay your patch series.
> > > > > 
> > > > > [1] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-media/20211130141536.891878-28-tomi.valkeinen@ideasonboard.com
> > > > 
> > > > I'm still a bit confused what problem this is trying to solve.
> > > > My understanding was that the current pad/link API allows representing complex
> > > > topologies and switching different paths with link enable/disable.
> > > 
> > > That was the intent of the MEDIA_IOC_SETUP_LINK ioctl, but we ended up
> > > with something that is fairly ill-defined, and doesn't have the ability
> > > to set multiple links atomically. It turned out to be less usable for
> > > userspace than expected. Mistakes happen (and I'll blame myself here,
> > > having designed that API) when we don't have real test cases during
> > > kernel development.
> > 
> > Yeah it's hard to predict these kinds of things in advance I suppose.
> > Thanks for the heads up!
> > 
> > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > +required:
> > > > > > > > > > +  - compatible
> > > > > > > > > > +  - reg
> > > > > > > > > > +  - interrupts
> > > > > > > > > > +  - clocks
> > > > > > > > > > +  - clock-names
> > > > > > > > > > +  - resets
> > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > +additionalProperties: false
> > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > +examples:
> > > > > > > > > > +  - |
> > > > > > > > > > +    #include <dt-bindings/interrupt-controller/arm-gic.h>
> > > > > > > > > > +    #include <dt-bindings/clock/sun8i-v3s-ccu.h>
> > > > > > > > > > +    #include <dt-bindings/reset/sun8i-v3s-ccu.h>
> > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > +    isp: isp@1cb8000 {
> > > > > > > > > > +        compatible = "allwinner,sun8i-v3s-isp";
> > > > > > > > > > +        reg = <0x01cb8000 0x1000>;
> > > > > > > > > > +        interrupts = <GIC_SPI 83 IRQ_TYPE_LEVEL_HIGH>;
> > > > > > > > > > +        clocks = <&ccu CLK_BUS_CSI>,
> > > > > > > > > > +             <&ccu CLK_CSI1_SCLK>,
> > > > > > > > > > +             <&ccu CLK_DRAM_CSI>;
> > > > > > > > > > +        clock-names = "bus", "mod", "ram";
> > > > > > > > > > +        resets = <&ccu RST_BUS_CSI>;
> > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > +        ports {
> > > > > > > > > > +            #address-cells = <1>;
> > > > > > > > > > +            #size-cells = <0>;
> > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > +            port@0 {
> > > > > > > > > > +                reg = <0>;
> > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > +                isp_in_csi0: endpoint {
> > > > > > > > > > +                    remote-endpoint = <&csi0_out_isp>;
> > > > > > > > > > +                };
> > > > > > > > > > +            };
> > > > > > > > > > +        };
> > > > > > > > > > +    };
> > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > +...
> 
> -- 
> Regards,
> 
> Laurent Pinchart
Laurent Pinchart March 13, 2022, 4:15 p.m. UTC | #15
Hi Paul,

On Fri, Mar 11, 2022 at 03:17:15PM +0100, Paul Kocialkowski wrote:
> On Fri 04 Mar 22, 16:09, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > On Fri, Mar 04, 2022 at 02:57:41PM +0100, Paul Kocialkowski wrote:
> > > On Fri 04 Mar 22, 14:01, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Mar 01, 2022 at 04:38:59PM +0100, Paul Kocialkowski wrote:
> > > > > On Tue 15 Feb 22, 12:16, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > > > > > On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 11:10:52AM +0100, Paul Kocialkowski wrote:
> > > > > > > On Mon 14 Feb 22, 19:09, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 05:18:07PM +0100, Paul Kocialkowski wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Mon 07 Feb 22, 17:51, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Feb 05, 2022 at 07:54:24PM +0100, Paul Kocialkowski wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > This introduces YAML bindings documentation for the Allwinner A31 Image
> > > > > > > > > > > Signal Processor (ISP).
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Paul Kocialkowski <paul.kocialkowski@bootlin.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > ---
> > > > > > > > > > >  .../media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml        | 117 ++++++++++++++++++
> > > > > > > > > > >  1 file changed, 117 insertions(+)
> > > > > > > > > > >  create mode 100644 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml
> > > > > > > > > > > new file mode 100644
> > > > > > > > > > > index 000000000000..2d87022c43ce
> > > > > > > > > > > --- /dev/null
> > > > > > > > > > > +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml
> > > > > > > > > > > @@ -0,0 +1,117 @@
> > > > > > > > > > > +# SPDX-License-Identifier: (GPL-2.0 OR BSD-2-Clause)
> > > > > > > > > > > +%YAML 1.2
> > > > > > > > > > > +---
> > > > > > > > > > > +$id: http://devicetree.org/schemas/media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml#
> > > > > > > > > > > +$schema: http://devicetree.org/meta-schemas/core.yaml#
> > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > +title: Allwinner A31 Image Signal Processor Driver (ISP) Device Tree Bindings
> > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > +maintainers:
> > > > > > > > > > > +  - Paul Kocialkowski <paul.kocialkowski@bootlin.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > +properties:
> > > > > > > > > > > +  compatible:
> > > > > > > > > > > +    enum:
> > > > > > > > > > > +      - allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp
> > > > > > > > > > > +      - allwinner,sun8i-v3s-isp
> > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > +  reg:
> > > > > > > > > > > +    maxItems: 1
> > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > +  interrupts:
> > > > > > > > > > > +    maxItems: 1
> > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > +  clocks:
> > > > > > > > > > > +    items:
> > > > > > > > > > > +      - description: Bus Clock
> > > > > > > > > > > +      - description: Module Clock
> > > > > > > > > > > +      - description: DRAM Clock
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > That's interesting, does the ISP have a dedicated DRAM ?
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > It doesn't, it actually uses the main DRAM with the "mbus" interconnect.
> > > > > > > > > The clock is probably for the DMA engine.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > +  clock-names:
> > > > > > > > > > > +    items:
> > > > > > > > > > > +      - const: bus
> > > > > > > > > > > +      - const: mod
> > > > > > > > > > > +      - const: ram
> > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > +  resets:
> > > > > > > > > > > +    maxItems: 1
> > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > +  ports:
> > > > > > > > > > > +    $ref: /schemas/graph.yaml#/properties/ports
> > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > +    properties:
> > > > > > > > > > > +      port@0:
> > > > > > > > > > > +        $ref: /schemas/graph.yaml#/$defs/port-base
> > > > > > > > > > > +        description: CSI0 input port
> > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > +        properties:
> > > > > > > > > > > +          reg:
> > > > > > > > > > > +            const: 0
> > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > +          endpoint:
> > > > > > > > > > > +            $ref: video-interfaces.yaml#
> > > > > > > > > > > +            unevaluatedProperties: false
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > If no other property than remote-endpoint are allowed, I'd write
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >           endpoint:
> > > > > > > > > >             $ref: video-interfaces.yaml#
> > > > > > > > > > 	    remote-endpoint: true
> > > > > > > > > >             additionalProperties: false
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Same below.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > +        additionalProperties: false
> > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > +      port@1:
> > > > > > > > > > > +        $ref: /schemas/graph.yaml#/$defs/port-base
> > > > > > > > > > > +        description: CSI1 input port
> > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > +        properties:
> > > > > > > > > > > +          reg:
> > > > > > > > > > > +            const: 0
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > This should be 1.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Correct, thanks!
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > +          endpoint:
> > > > > > > > > > > +            $ref: video-interfaces.yaml#
> > > > > > > > > > > +            unevaluatedProperties: false
> > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > +        additionalProperties: false
> > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > +    anyOf:
> > > > > > > > > > > +      - required:
> > > > > > > > > > > +        - port@0
> > > > > > > > > > > +      - required:
> > > > > > > > > > > +        - port@1
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > As ports are an intrinsic property of the ISP, both should be required,
> > > > > > > > > > but they don't have to be connected.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Well the ISP does have the ability to source from either CSI0 and CSI1
> > > > > > > > > but I don't really get the point of declaring both ports when only one
> > > > > > > > > of the two controllers is present.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > If it's within an SoC I don't mind too much. What I usually insist on is
> > > > > > > > declaring all ports even when no external devices are connected on the
> > > > > > > > board. It may however be easier to implement things on the driver side
> > > > > > > > when all the ports are declared, even for internal devices. I won't
> > > > > > > > insist either way here.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > By the way, how do you select at runtime which CSI-2 RX the ISP gets its
> > > > > > > > > > image stream from ? Is it configured through registers of the ISP ?
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Actually what the ISP gets is fully dependent on what is received by the
> > > > > > > > > CSI controller it is connected to (which can be the mipi csi-2 controller
> > > > > > > > > or its direct parallel pins), so the configuration happens on the CSI side.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > OK, then how do you select at runtime which CSI the ISP gets its image
> > > > > > > > stream from ? :-)
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > What is done in the driver is that all available csi(s) entities pads are linked
> > > > > > > to a single csi sink media pad, which allows userspace to enable one or the
> > > > > > > other. If there's only one, it's enabled by default.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > The actual stream source (isp_dev->proc.source) is selected at link_validate
> > > > > > > time and the source bit is set in sun6i_isp_proc_enable.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I hope this answers your question!
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Yes it does, thank you.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > While this works, it makes life a bit more complicated for userspace, as
> > > > > > switching between the two sources require disabling the link first and
> > > > > > then enabling the new one. This is something that caused issues in the
> > > > > > libcamera simple pipeline handler, I ended up having to implement a
> > > > > > workaround.
> > > > > 
> > > > > That surprises me a bit, I thought this was a typical use-case for links.
> > > > > So the fact that it's a two-step process causes issues somehow?
> > > > 
> > > > It's not so much that the links have to be configured in two steps
> > > > (although it would be nice if that could be fixed), but the fact that
> > > > the order of the operations matter. Userspace has to know what
> > > > combination of links is acceptable in order to determine the order of
> > > > the enable/disable operations, otherwise errors may be returned. That
> > > > makes it more difficult to write generic userspace code.
> > > 
> > > Ah right, I understand that. Now it's pretty much trial-and-error if userspace
> > > doesn't have prior knowledge about the hardware. But to be honest I assumed
> > > that it was more or less understood that there cannot be fully generic
> > > userspace for this and that knowedlege about the driver and pipeline flow
> > > is required to do things right.
> > 
> > You're right, and that's why we have device-specific code in libcamera.
> > However, the more generic-friendly the APIs can be, the more the
> > device-specific userspace code will be able to use generic helpers, so
> > it still matters.
> > 
> > > > > > Could you instead have two sink pads for the ISP, and select the sensor
> > > > > > at stream on time instead of link validation time by checking which link
> > > > > > is enabled ? If no links or both links are enabled, you can then return
> > > > > > an error.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Yes that's totally doable.
> > > > > 
> > > > > There's a similar situation with the sun6i-csi bridge where the source pad
> > > > > has two possible links: one for routing to sun6i-csi capture (video device)
> > > > > and one for routing to the isp entity.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Would that also be best represented as two pads?
> > > > 
> > > > Are the two outputs mutually exclusive ? Sorry if I've asked before.
> > > 
> > > I don't think you have. Yes they are mutually exclusive, only one source
> > > can be selected at a time. Same situation as the ISP where the two CSI unit
> > > inputs are mutually exclusive.
> > 
> > On the sink (input) side that's quite common, if you have two different
> > sources but a single sink, the sink can't (usually) process both sources
> > at the same time. I understand that for the sun6i-csi bridge it's the
> > other way around, with the bridge can output to either a DMA engine or
> > to the ISP, but not both at the same time. That's less common, but can
> > certainly happen. I think I'd go for two source pads in that case too.
> > Sakari, any opinion ?
> 
> As I was reading this thread again, I think there might be a misunderstanding
> here when you said that "switching between the two sources require disabling
> the link first and then enabling the new one".
> 
> The driver is currently not checking the validity of the setup at link_setup
> but at link_validate (which is called at streamon time), so userspace can
> effectively disable/enable links in whichever order and a valid setup is only
> required when streaming starts. I think that's already the situation that you
> want to achieve.

That's right. link_validate is probably not the best place though, as
it's meant to validate one link, while here you need to perform
validation of the state of multiple links, right ?

> To summarize, the following pads can have multiple links:
> - csi sink (parallel sensor source or mipi csi-2 bridge source)
> - csi source (isp sink or video capture sink)
> - isp sink (csi0 source or csi1 source)
> 
> I'll send my next versions without changes (one pad, multiple links)
> but we can revisit this if there's an issue with that after all.

OK.

> > > > > > Ideally I'd say such internal routing should use the new V4L2 subdev
> > > > > > routing API that is currently being implemented (see [1]), but I don't
> > > > > > know when it will land, and I don't want to delay your patch series.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > [1] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-media/20211130141536.891878-28-tomi.valkeinen@ideasonboard.com
> > > > > 
> > > > > I'm still a bit confused what problem this is trying to solve.
> > > > > My understanding was that the current pad/link API allows representing complex
> > > > > topologies and switching different paths with link enable/disable.
> > > > 
> > > > That was the intent of the MEDIA_IOC_SETUP_LINK ioctl, but we ended up
> > > > with something that is fairly ill-defined, and doesn't have the ability
> > > > to set multiple links atomically. It turned out to be less usable for
> > > > userspace than expected. Mistakes happen (and I'll blame myself here,
> > > > having designed that API) when we don't have real test cases during
> > > > kernel development.
> > > 
> > > Yeah it's hard to predict these kinds of things in advance I suppose.
> > > Thanks for the heads up!
> > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > +required:
> > > > > > > > > > > +  - compatible
> > > > > > > > > > > +  - reg
> > > > > > > > > > > +  - interrupts
> > > > > > > > > > > +  - clocks
> > > > > > > > > > > +  - clock-names
> > > > > > > > > > > +  - resets
> > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > +additionalProperties: false
> > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > +examples:
> > > > > > > > > > > +  - |
> > > > > > > > > > > +    #include <dt-bindings/interrupt-controller/arm-gic.h>
> > > > > > > > > > > +    #include <dt-bindings/clock/sun8i-v3s-ccu.h>
> > > > > > > > > > > +    #include <dt-bindings/reset/sun8i-v3s-ccu.h>
> > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > +    isp: isp@1cb8000 {
> > > > > > > > > > > +        compatible = "allwinner,sun8i-v3s-isp";
> > > > > > > > > > > +        reg = <0x01cb8000 0x1000>;
> > > > > > > > > > > +        interrupts = <GIC_SPI 83 IRQ_TYPE_LEVEL_HIGH>;
> > > > > > > > > > > +        clocks = <&ccu CLK_BUS_CSI>,
> > > > > > > > > > > +             <&ccu CLK_CSI1_SCLK>,
> > > > > > > > > > > +             <&ccu CLK_DRAM_CSI>;
> > > > > > > > > > > +        clock-names = "bus", "mod", "ram";
> > > > > > > > > > > +        resets = <&ccu RST_BUS_CSI>;
> > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > +        ports {
> > > > > > > > > > > +            #address-cells = <1>;
> > > > > > > > > > > +            #size-cells = <0>;
> > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > +            port@0 {
> > > > > > > > > > > +                reg = <0>;
> > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > +                isp_in_csi0: endpoint {
> > > > > > > > > > > +                    remote-endpoint = <&csi0_out_isp>;
> > > > > > > > > > > +                };
> > > > > > > > > > > +            };
> > > > > > > > > > > +        };
> > > > > > > > > > > +    };
> > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > +...
Paul Kocialkowski March 15, 2022, 9:49 a.m. UTC | #16
Hi Laurent,

On Sun 13 Mar 22, 18:15, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> Hi Paul,
> 
> On Fri, Mar 11, 2022 at 03:17:15PM +0100, Paul Kocialkowski wrote:
> > On Fri 04 Mar 22, 16:09, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > > On Fri, Mar 04, 2022 at 02:57:41PM +0100, Paul Kocialkowski wrote:
> > > > On Fri 04 Mar 22, 14:01, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > > > > On Tue, Mar 01, 2022 at 04:38:59PM +0100, Paul Kocialkowski wrote:
> > > > > > On Tue 15 Feb 22, 12:16, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 11:10:52AM +0100, Paul Kocialkowski wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Mon 14 Feb 22, 19:09, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 05:18:07PM +0100, Paul Kocialkowski wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Mon 07 Feb 22, 17:51, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Feb 05, 2022 at 07:54:24PM +0100, Paul Kocialkowski wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > This introduces YAML bindings documentation for the Allwinner A31 Image
> > > > > > > > > > > > Signal Processor (ISP).
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Paul Kocialkowski <paul.kocialkowski@bootlin.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > ---
> > > > > > > > > > > >  .../media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml        | 117 ++++++++++++++++++
> > > > > > > > > > > >  1 file changed, 117 insertions(+)
> > > > > > > > > > > >  create mode 100644 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml
> > > > > > > > > > > > new file mode 100644
> > > > > > > > > > > > index 000000000000..2d87022c43ce
> > > > > > > > > > > > --- /dev/null
> > > > > > > > > > > > +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml
> > > > > > > > > > > > @@ -0,0 +1,117 @@
> > > > > > > > > > > > +# SPDX-License-Identifier: (GPL-2.0 OR BSD-2-Clause)
> > > > > > > > > > > > +%YAML 1.2
> > > > > > > > > > > > +---
> > > > > > > > > > > > +$id: http://devicetree.org/schemas/media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml#
> > > > > > > > > > > > +$schema: http://devicetree.org/meta-schemas/core.yaml#
> > > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > > +title: Allwinner A31 Image Signal Processor Driver (ISP) Device Tree Bindings
> > > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > > +maintainers:
> > > > > > > > > > > > +  - Paul Kocialkowski <paul.kocialkowski@bootlin.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > > +properties:
> > > > > > > > > > > > +  compatible:
> > > > > > > > > > > > +    enum:
> > > > > > > > > > > > +      - allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp
> > > > > > > > > > > > +      - allwinner,sun8i-v3s-isp
> > > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > > +  reg:
> > > > > > > > > > > > +    maxItems: 1
> > > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > > +  interrupts:
> > > > > > > > > > > > +    maxItems: 1
> > > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > > +  clocks:
> > > > > > > > > > > > +    items:
> > > > > > > > > > > > +      - description: Bus Clock
> > > > > > > > > > > > +      - description: Module Clock
> > > > > > > > > > > > +      - description: DRAM Clock
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > That's interesting, does the ISP have a dedicated DRAM ?
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > It doesn't, it actually uses the main DRAM with the "mbus" interconnect.
> > > > > > > > > > The clock is probably for the DMA engine.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > > +  clock-names:
> > > > > > > > > > > > +    items:
> > > > > > > > > > > > +      - const: bus
> > > > > > > > > > > > +      - const: mod
> > > > > > > > > > > > +      - const: ram
> > > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > > +  resets:
> > > > > > > > > > > > +    maxItems: 1
> > > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > > +  ports:
> > > > > > > > > > > > +    $ref: /schemas/graph.yaml#/properties/ports
> > > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > > +    properties:
> > > > > > > > > > > > +      port@0:
> > > > > > > > > > > > +        $ref: /schemas/graph.yaml#/$defs/port-base
> > > > > > > > > > > > +        description: CSI0 input port
> > > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > > +        properties:
> > > > > > > > > > > > +          reg:
> > > > > > > > > > > > +            const: 0
> > > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > > +          endpoint:
> > > > > > > > > > > > +            $ref: video-interfaces.yaml#
> > > > > > > > > > > > +            unevaluatedProperties: false
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > If no other property than remote-endpoint are allowed, I'd write
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > >           endpoint:
> > > > > > > > > > >             $ref: video-interfaces.yaml#
> > > > > > > > > > > 	    remote-endpoint: true
> > > > > > > > > > >             additionalProperties: false
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > Same below.
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > > +        additionalProperties: false
> > > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > > +      port@1:
> > > > > > > > > > > > +        $ref: /schemas/graph.yaml#/$defs/port-base
> > > > > > > > > > > > +        description: CSI1 input port
> > > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > > +        properties:
> > > > > > > > > > > > +          reg:
> > > > > > > > > > > > +            const: 0
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > This should be 1.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Correct, thanks!
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > > +          endpoint:
> > > > > > > > > > > > +            $ref: video-interfaces.yaml#
> > > > > > > > > > > > +            unevaluatedProperties: false
> > > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > > +        additionalProperties: false
> > > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > > +    anyOf:
> > > > > > > > > > > > +      - required:
> > > > > > > > > > > > +        - port@0
> > > > > > > > > > > > +      - required:
> > > > > > > > > > > > +        - port@1
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > As ports are an intrinsic property of the ISP, both should be required,
> > > > > > > > > > > but they don't have to be connected.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Well the ISP does have the ability to source from either CSI0 and CSI1
> > > > > > > > > > but I don't really get the point of declaring both ports when only one
> > > > > > > > > > of the two controllers is present.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > If it's within an SoC I don't mind too much. What I usually insist on is
> > > > > > > > > declaring all ports even when no external devices are connected on the
> > > > > > > > > board. It may however be easier to implement things on the driver side
> > > > > > > > > when all the ports are declared, even for internal devices. I won't
> > > > > > > > > insist either way here.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > By the way, how do you select at runtime which CSI-2 RX the ISP gets its
> > > > > > > > > > > image stream from ? Is it configured through registers of the ISP ?
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Actually what the ISP gets is fully dependent on what is received by the
> > > > > > > > > > CSI controller it is connected to (which can be the mipi csi-2 controller
> > > > > > > > > > or its direct parallel pins), so the configuration happens on the CSI side.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > OK, then how do you select at runtime which CSI the ISP gets its image
> > > > > > > > > stream from ? :-)
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > What is done in the driver is that all available csi(s) entities pads are linked
> > > > > > > > to a single csi sink media pad, which allows userspace to enable one or the
> > > > > > > > other. If there's only one, it's enabled by default.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > The actual stream source (isp_dev->proc.source) is selected at link_validate
> > > > > > > > time and the source bit is set in sun6i_isp_proc_enable.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > I hope this answers your question!
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Yes it does, thank you.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > While this works, it makes life a bit more complicated for userspace, as
> > > > > > > switching between the two sources require disabling the link first and
> > > > > > > then enabling the new one. This is something that caused issues in the
> > > > > > > libcamera simple pipeline handler, I ended up having to implement a
> > > > > > > workaround.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > That surprises me a bit, I thought this was a typical use-case for links.
> > > > > > So the fact that it's a two-step process causes issues somehow?
> > > > > 
> > > > > It's not so much that the links have to be configured in two steps
> > > > > (although it would be nice if that could be fixed), but the fact that
> > > > > the order of the operations matter. Userspace has to know what
> > > > > combination of links is acceptable in order to determine the order of
> > > > > the enable/disable operations, otherwise errors may be returned. That
> > > > > makes it more difficult to write generic userspace code.
> > > > 
> > > > Ah right, I understand that. Now it's pretty much trial-and-error if userspace
> > > > doesn't have prior knowledge about the hardware. But to be honest I assumed
> > > > that it was more or less understood that there cannot be fully generic
> > > > userspace for this and that knowedlege about the driver and pipeline flow
> > > > is required to do things right.
> > > 
> > > You're right, and that's why we have device-specific code in libcamera.
> > > However, the more generic-friendly the APIs can be, the more the
> > > device-specific userspace code will be able to use generic helpers, so
> > > it still matters.
> > > 
> > > > > > > Could you instead have two sink pads for the ISP, and select the sensor
> > > > > > > at stream on time instead of link validation time by checking which link
> > > > > > > is enabled ? If no links or both links are enabled, you can then return
> > > > > > > an error.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Yes that's totally doable.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > There's a similar situation with the sun6i-csi bridge where the source pad
> > > > > > has two possible links: one for routing to sun6i-csi capture (video device)
> > > > > > and one for routing to the isp entity.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Would that also be best represented as two pads?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Are the two outputs mutually exclusive ? Sorry if I've asked before.
> > > > 
> > > > I don't think you have. Yes they are mutually exclusive, only one source
> > > > can be selected at a time. Same situation as the ISP where the two CSI unit
> > > > inputs are mutually exclusive.
> > > 
> > > On the sink (input) side that's quite common, if you have two different
> > > sources but a single sink, the sink can't (usually) process both sources
> > > at the same time. I understand that for the sun6i-csi bridge it's the
> > > other way around, with the bridge can output to either a DMA engine or
> > > to the ISP, but not both at the same time. That's less common, but can
> > > certainly happen. I think I'd go for two source pads in that case too.
> > > Sakari, any opinion ?
> > 
> > As I was reading this thread again, I think there might be a misunderstanding
> > here when you said that "switching between the two sources require disabling
> > the link first and then enabling the new one".
> > 
> > The driver is currently not checking the validity of the setup at link_setup
> > but at link_validate (which is called at streamon time), so userspace can
> > effectively disable/enable links in whichever order and a valid setup is only
> > required when streaming starts. I think that's already the situation that you
> > want to achieve.
> 
> That's right. link_validate is probably not the best place though, as
> it's meant to validate one link, while here you need to perform
> validation of the state of multiple links, right ?

Yeah actually I'm starting to think that unexpected situations may not be
correctly handled here. I'll have a closer look at it. It feels like the
best approach would be to keep track each source's enabled state with
link_setup and check that only one is enabled at streamon time.

> > To summarize, the following pads can have multiple links:
> > - csi sink (parallel sensor source or mipi csi-2 bridge source)
> > - csi source (isp sink or video capture sink)
> > - isp sink (csi0 source or csi1 source)
> > 
> > I'll send my next versions without changes (one pad, multiple links)
> > but we can revisit this if there's an issue with that after all.
> 
> OK.
> 
> > > > > > > Ideally I'd say such internal routing should use the new V4L2 subdev
> > > > > > > routing API that is currently being implemented (see [1]), but I don't
> > > > > > > know when it will land, and I don't want to delay your patch series.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > [1] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-media/20211130141536.891878-28-tomi.valkeinen@ideasonboard.com
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I'm still a bit confused what problem this is trying to solve.
> > > > > > My understanding was that the current pad/link API allows representing complex
> > > > > > topologies and switching different paths with link enable/disable.
> > > > > 
> > > > > That was the intent of the MEDIA_IOC_SETUP_LINK ioctl, but we ended up
> > > > > with something that is fairly ill-defined, and doesn't have the ability
> > > > > to set multiple links atomically. It turned out to be less usable for
> > > > > userspace than expected. Mistakes happen (and I'll blame myself here,
> > > > > having designed that API) when we don't have real test cases during
> > > > > kernel development.
> > > > 
> > > > Yeah it's hard to predict these kinds of things in advance I suppose.
> > > > Thanks for the heads up!
> > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > > +required:
> > > > > > > > > > > > +  - compatible
> > > > > > > > > > > > +  - reg
> > > > > > > > > > > > +  - interrupts
> > > > > > > > > > > > +  - clocks
> > > > > > > > > > > > +  - clock-names
> > > > > > > > > > > > +  - resets
> > > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > > +additionalProperties: false
> > > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > > +examples:
> > > > > > > > > > > > +  - |
> > > > > > > > > > > > +    #include <dt-bindings/interrupt-controller/arm-gic.h>
> > > > > > > > > > > > +    #include <dt-bindings/clock/sun8i-v3s-ccu.h>
> > > > > > > > > > > > +    #include <dt-bindings/reset/sun8i-v3s-ccu.h>
> > > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > > +    isp: isp@1cb8000 {
> > > > > > > > > > > > +        compatible = "allwinner,sun8i-v3s-isp";
> > > > > > > > > > > > +        reg = <0x01cb8000 0x1000>;
> > > > > > > > > > > > +        interrupts = <GIC_SPI 83 IRQ_TYPE_LEVEL_HIGH>;
> > > > > > > > > > > > +        clocks = <&ccu CLK_BUS_CSI>,
> > > > > > > > > > > > +             <&ccu CLK_CSI1_SCLK>,
> > > > > > > > > > > > +             <&ccu CLK_DRAM_CSI>;
> > > > > > > > > > > > +        clock-names = "bus", "mod", "ram";
> > > > > > > > > > > > +        resets = <&ccu RST_BUS_CSI>;
> > > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > > +        ports {
> > > > > > > > > > > > +            #address-cells = <1>;
> > > > > > > > > > > > +            #size-cells = <0>;
> > > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > > +            port@0 {
> > > > > > > > > > > > +                reg = <0>;
> > > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > > +                isp_in_csi0: endpoint {
> > > > > > > > > > > > +                    remote-endpoint = <&csi0_out_isp>;
> > > > > > > > > > > > +                };
> > > > > > > > > > > > +            };
> > > > > > > > > > > > +        };
> > > > > > > > > > > > +    };
> > > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > > +...
> 
> -- 
> Regards,
> 
> Laurent Pinchart
Laurent Pinchart March 15, 2022, 10:13 a.m. UTC | #17
Hi Paul,

On Tue, Mar 15, 2022 at 10:49:36AM +0100, Paul Kocialkowski wrote:
> On Sun 13 Mar 22, 18:15, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > On Fri, Mar 11, 2022 at 03:17:15PM +0100, Paul Kocialkowski wrote:
> > > On Fri 04 Mar 22, 16:09, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > > > On Fri, Mar 04, 2022 at 02:57:41PM +0100, Paul Kocialkowski wrote:
> > > > > On Fri 04 Mar 22, 14:01, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > > > > > On Tue, Mar 01, 2022 at 04:38:59PM +0100, Paul Kocialkowski wrote:
> > > > > > > On Tue 15 Feb 22, 12:16, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 11:10:52AM +0100, Paul Kocialkowski wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Mon 14 Feb 22, 19:09, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 05:18:07PM +0100, Paul Kocialkowski wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > On Mon 07 Feb 22, 17:51, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Feb 05, 2022 at 07:54:24PM +0100, Paul Kocialkowski wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > This introduces YAML bindings documentation for the Allwinner A31 Image
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Signal Processor (ISP).
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Paul Kocialkowski <paul.kocialkowski@bootlin.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > ---
> > > > > > > > > > > > >  .../media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml        | 117 ++++++++++++++++++
> > > > > > > > > > > > >  1 file changed, 117 insertions(+)
> > > > > > > > > > > > >  create mode 100644 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml
> > > > > > > > > > > > > new file mode 100644
> > > > > > > > > > > > > index 000000000000..2d87022c43ce
> > > > > > > > > > > > > --- /dev/null
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml
> > > > > > > > > > > > > @@ -0,0 +1,117 @@
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +# SPDX-License-Identifier: (GPL-2.0 OR BSD-2-Clause)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +%YAML 1.2
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +---
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +$id: http://devicetree.org/schemas/media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml#
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +$schema: http://devicetree.org/meta-schemas/core.yaml#
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +title: Allwinner A31 Image Signal Processor Driver (ISP) Device Tree Bindings
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +maintainers:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +  - Paul Kocialkowski <paul.kocialkowski@bootlin.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +properties:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +  compatible:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +    enum:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +      - allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +      - allwinner,sun8i-v3s-isp
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +  reg:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +    maxItems: 1
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +  interrupts:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +    maxItems: 1
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +  clocks:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +    items:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +      - description: Bus Clock
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +      - description: Module Clock
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +      - description: DRAM Clock
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > That's interesting, does the ISP have a dedicated DRAM ?
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > It doesn't, it actually uses the main DRAM with the "mbus" interconnect.
> > > > > > > > > > > The clock is probably for the DMA engine.
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +  clock-names:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +    items:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +      - const: bus
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +      - const: mod
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +      - const: ram
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +  resets:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +    maxItems: 1
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +  ports:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +    $ref: /schemas/graph.yaml#/properties/ports
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +    properties:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +      port@0:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +        $ref: /schemas/graph.yaml#/$defs/port-base
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +        description: CSI0 input port
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +        properties:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +          reg:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +            const: 0
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +          endpoint:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +            $ref: video-interfaces.yaml#
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +            unevaluatedProperties: false
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > If no other property than remote-endpoint are allowed, I'd write
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > >           endpoint:
> > > > > > > > > > > >             $ref: video-interfaces.yaml#
> > > > > > > > > > > > 	    remote-endpoint: true
> > > > > > > > > > > >             additionalProperties: false
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > Same below.
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +        additionalProperties: false
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +      port@1:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +        $ref: /schemas/graph.yaml#/$defs/port-base
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +        description: CSI1 input port
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +        properties:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +          reg:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +            const: 0
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > This should be 1.
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > Correct, thanks!
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +          endpoint:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +            $ref: video-interfaces.yaml#
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +            unevaluatedProperties: false
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +        additionalProperties: false
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +    anyOf:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +      - required:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +        - port@0
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +      - required:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +        - port@1
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > As ports are an intrinsic property of the ISP, both should be required,
> > > > > > > > > > > > but they don't have to be connected.
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > Well the ISP does have the ability to source from either CSI0 and CSI1
> > > > > > > > > > > but I don't really get the point of declaring both ports when only one
> > > > > > > > > > > of the two controllers is present.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > If it's within an SoC I don't mind too much. What I usually insist on is
> > > > > > > > > > declaring all ports even when no external devices are connected on the
> > > > > > > > > > board. It may however be easier to implement things on the driver side
> > > > > > > > > > when all the ports are declared, even for internal devices. I won't
> > > > > > > > > > insist either way here.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > By the way, how do you select at runtime which CSI-2 RX the ISP gets its
> > > > > > > > > > > > image stream from ? Is it configured through registers of the ISP ?
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > Actually what the ISP gets is fully dependent on what is received by the
> > > > > > > > > > > CSI controller it is connected to (which can be the mipi csi-2 controller
> > > > > > > > > > > or its direct parallel pins), so the configuration happens on the CSI side.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > OK, then how do you select at runtime which CSI the ISP gets its image
> > > > > > > > > > stream from ? :-)
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > What is done in the driver is that all available csi(s) entities pads are linked
> > > > > > > > > to a single csi sink media pad, which allows userspace to enable one or the
> > > > > > > > > other. If there's only one, it's enabled by default.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > The actual stream source (isp_dev->proc.source) is selected at link_validate
> > > > > > > > > time and the source bit is set in sun6i_isp_proc_enable.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > I hope this answers your question!
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Yes it does, thank you.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > While this works, it makes life a bit more complicated for userspace, as
> > > > > > > > switching between the two sources require disabling the link first and
> > > > > > > > then enabling the new one. This is something that caused issues in the
> > > > > > > > libcamera simple pipeline handler, I ended up having to implement a
> > > > > > > > workaround.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > That surprises me a bit, I thought this was a typical use-case for links.
> > > > > > > So the fact that it's a two-step process causes issues somehow?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > It's not so much that the links have to be configured in two steps
> > > > > > (although it would be nice if that could be fixed), but the fact that
> > > > > > the order of the operations matter. Userspace has to know what
> > > > > > combination of links is acceptable in order to determine the order of
> > > > > > the enable/disable operations, otherwise errors may be returned. That
> > > > > > makes it more difficult to write generic userspace code.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Ah right, I understand that. Now it's pretty much trial-and-error if userspace
> > > > > doesn't have prior knowledge about the hardware. But to be honest I assumed
> > > > > that it was more or less understood that there cannot be fully generic
> > > > > userspace for this and that knowedlege about the driver and pipeline flow
> > > > > is required to do things right.
> > > > 
> > > > You're right, and that's why we have device-specific code in libcamera.
> > > > However, the more generic-friendly the APIs can be, the more the
> > > > device-specific userspace code will be able to use generic helpers, so
> > > > it still matters.
> > > > 
> > > > > > > > Could you instead have two sink pads for the ISP, and select the sensor
> > > > > > > > at stream on time instead of link validation time by checking which link
> > > > > > > > is enabled ? If no links or both links are enabled, you can then return
> > > > > > > > an error.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Yes that's totally doable.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > There's a similar situation with the sun6i-csi bridge where the source pad
> > > > > > > has two possible links: one for routing to sun6i-csi capture (video device)
> > > > > > > and one for routing to the isp entity.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Would that also be best represented as two pads?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Are the two outputs mutually exclusive ? Sorry if I've asked before.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I don't think you have. Yes they are mutually exclusive, only one source
> > > > > can be selected at a time. Same situation as the ISP where the two CSI unit
> > > > > inputs are mutually exclusive.
> > > > 
> > > > On the sink (input) side that's quite common, if you have two different
> > > > sources but a single sink, the sink can't (usually) process both sources
> > > > at the same time. I understand that for the sun6i-csi bridge it's the
> > > > other way around, with the bridge can output to either a DMA engine or
> > > > to the ISP, but not both at the same time. That's less common, but can
> > > > certainly happen. I think I'd go for two source pads in that case too.
> > > > Sakari, any opinion ?
> > > 
> > > As I was reading this thread again, I think there might be a misunderstanding
> > > here when you said that "switching between the two sources require disabling
> > > the link first and then enabling the new one".
> > > 
> > > The driver is currently not checking the validity of the setup at link_setup
> > > but at link_validate (which is called at streamon time), so userspace can
> > > effectively disable/enable links in whichever order and a valid setup is only
> > > required when streaming starts. I think that's already the situation that you
> > > want to achieve.
> > 
> > That's right. link_validate is probably not the best place though, as
> > it's meant to validate one link, while here you need to perform
> > validation of the state of multiple links, right ?
> 
> Yeah actually I'm starting to think that unexpected situations may not be
> correctly handled here. I'll have a closer look at it. It feels like the
> best approach would be to keep track each source's enabled state with
> link_setup and check that only one is enabled at streamon time.

You don't even necessarily have to keep track in link_setup, you could
iterate through links at streamon time to ensure one and only one is
enabled. As this is a common use case, a helper function to do that
would be useful.

> > > To summarize, the following pads can have multiple links:
> > > - csi sink (parallel sensor source or mipi csi-2 bridge source)
> > > - csi source (isp sink or video capture sink)
> > > - isp sink (csi0 source or csi1 source)
> > > 
> > > I'll send my next versions without changes (one pad, multiple links)
> > > but we can revisit this if there's an issue with that after all.
> > 
> > OK.
> > 
> > > > > > > > Ideally I'd say such internal routing should use the new V4L2 subdev
> > > > > > > > routing API that is currently being implemented (see [1]), but I don't
> > > > > > > > know when it will land, and I don't want to delay your patch series.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > [1] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-media/20211130141536.891878-28-tomi.valkeinen@ideasonboard.com
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I'm still a bit confused what problem this is trying to solve.
> > > > > > > My understanding was that the current pad/link API allows representing complex
> > > > > > > topologies and switching different paths with link enable/disable.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > That was the intent of the MEDIA_IOC_SETUP_LINK ioctl, but we ended up
> > > > > > with something that is fairly ill-defined, and doesn't have the ability
> > > > > > to set multiple links atomically. It turned out to be less usable for
> > > > > > userspace than expected. Mistakes happen (and I'll blame myself here,
> > > > > > having designed that API) when we don't have real test cases during
> > > > > > kernel development.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Yeah it's hard to predict these kinds of things in advance I suppose.
> > > > > Thanks for the heads up!
> > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +required:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +  - compatible
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +  - reg
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +  - interrupts
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +  - clocks
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +  - clock-names
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +  - resets
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +additionalProperties: false
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +examples:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +  - |
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +    #include <dt-bindings/interrupt-controller/arm-gic.h>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +    #include <dt-bindings/clock/sun8i-v3s-ccu.h>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +    #include <dt-bindings/reset/sun8i-v3s-ccu.h>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +    isp: isp@1cb8000 {
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +        compatible = "allwinner,sun8i-v3s-isp";
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +        reg = <0x01cb8000 0x1000>;
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +        interrupts = <GIC_SPI 83 IRQ_TYPE_LEVEL_HIGH>;
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +        clocks = <&ccu CLK_BUS_CSI>,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +             <&ccu CLK_CSI1_SCLK>,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +             <&ccu CLK_DRAM_CSI>;
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +        clock-names = "bus", "mod", "ram";
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +        resets = <&ccu RST_BUS_CSI>;
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +        ports {
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +            #address-cells = <1>;
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +            #size-cells = <0>;
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +            port@0 {
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +                reg = <0>;
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +                isp_in_csi0: endpoint {
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +                    remote-endpoint = <&csi0_out_isp>;
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +                };
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +            };
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +        };
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +    };
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +...
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diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml
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+# SPDX-License-Identifier: (GPL-2.0 OR BSD-2-Clause)
+%YAML 1.2
+---
+$id: http://devicetree.org/schemas/media/allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp.yaml#
+$schema: http://devicetree.org/meta-schemas/core.yaml#
+
+title: Allwinner A31 Image Signal Processor Driver (ISP) Device Tree Bindings
+
+maintainers:
+  - Paul Kocialkowski <paul.kocialkowski@bootlin.com>
+
+properties:
+  compatible:
+    enum:
+      - allwinner,sun6i-a31-isp
+      - allwinner,sun8i-v3s-isp
+
+  reg:
+    maxItems: 1
+
+  interrupts:
+    maxItems: 1
+
+  clocks:
+    items:
+      - description: Bus Clock
+      - description: Module Clock
+      - description: DRAM Clock
+
+  clock-names:
+    items:
+      - const: bus
+      - const: mod
+      - const: ram
+
+  resets:
+    maxItems: 1
+
+  ports:
+    $ref: /schemas/graph.yaml#/properties/ports
+
+    properties:
+      port@0:
+        $ref: /schemas/graph.yaml#/$defs/port-base
+        description: CSI0 input port
+
+        properties:
+          reg:
+            const: 0
+
+          endpoint:
+            $ref: video-interfaces.yaml#
+            unevaluatedProperties: false
+
+        additionalProperties: false
+
+      port@1:
+        $ref: /schemas/graph.yaml#/$defs/port-base
+        description: CSI1 input port
+
+        properties:
+          reg:
+            const: 0
+
+          endpoint:
+            $ref: video-interfaces.yaml#
+            unevaluatedProperties: false
+
+        additionalProperties: false
+
+    anyOf:
+      - required:
+        - port@0
+      - required:
+        - port@1
+
+required:
+  - compatible
+  - reg
+  - interrupts
+  - clocks
+  - clock-names
+  - resets
+
+additionalProperties: false
+
+examples:
+  - |
+    #include <dt-bindings/interrupt-controller/arm-gic.h>
+    #include <dt-bindings/clock/sun8i-v3s-ccu.h>
+    #include <dt-bindings/reset/sun8i-v3s-ccu.h>
+
+    isp: isp@1cb8000 {
+        compatible = "allwinner,sun8i-v3s-isp";
+        reg = <0x01cb8000 0x1000>;
+        interrupts = <GIC_SPI 83 IRQ_TYPE_LEVEL_HIGH>;
+        clocks = <&ccu CLK_BUS_CSI>,
+             <&ccu CLK_CSI1_SCLK>,
+             <&ccu CLK_DRAM_CSI>;
+        clock-names = "bus", "mod", "ram";
+        resets = <&ccu RST_BUS_CSI>;
+
+        ports {
+            #address-cells = <1>;
+            #size-cells = <0>;
+
+            port@0 {
+                reg = <0>;
+
+                isp_in_csi0: endpoint {
+                    remote-endpoint = <&csi0_out_isp>;
+                };
+            };
+        };
+    };
+
+...