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For cgroup v1, if turned on, and there's any cgroup in the "cpu" hierarchy it needs an RT budget assigned, otherwise the processes in it will not be able to get RT at all. The problem with RT group scheduling is that it requires the budget assigned but there's no way we could assign a default budget, since the values to assign are both upper and lower time limits, are absolute, and need to be sum up to < 1 for each individal cgroup. That means we cannot really come up with values that would work by default in the general case.[2] For cgroup v2, it's almost unusable as well. If it turned on, the cpu controller can only be enabled when all RT processes are in the root cgroup. But it will lose the benefits of cgroup v2 if all RT process were placed in the same cgroup. Red Hat, Gentoo, Arch Linux and Debian all disable it. systemd also doesn't support it.[3] [1]: https://github.com/moby/moby/commit/005150ed69c540fb0b5323e0f2208608c1204536 [2]: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1229700 [3]: https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/13781#issuecomment-549164383 Acked-by: Heinrich Schuchardt Signed-off-by: Celeste Liu Acked-by: Charlie Jenkins --- arch/riscv/configs/defconfig | 1 - 1 file changed, 1 deletion(-) diff --git a/arch/riscv/configs/defconfig b/arch/riscv/configs/defconfig index 12dc8c73a8acfaa5c8f442968a807de303428d9e..de85c3ab261e6d62b2089a3c89bdc9d1b34fa792 100644 --- a/arch/riscv/configs/defconfig +++ b/arch/riscv/configs/defconfig @@ -9,7 +9,6 @@ CONFIG_CGROUPS=y CONFIG_MEMCG=y CONFIG_CGROUP_SCHED=y CONFIG_CFS_BANDWIDTH=y -CONFIG_RT_GROUP_SCHED=y CONFIG_CGROUP_PIDS=y CONFIG_CGROUP_FREEZER=y CONFIG_CGROUP_HUGETLB=y From patchwork Tue Sep 10 12:51:08 2024 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Patchwork-Submitter: Celeste Liu X-Patchwork-Id: 13798506 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from bombadil.infradead.org (bombadil.infradead.org [198.137.202.133]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 98A91EB64DE for ; 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The problem with RT group scheduling is that it requires the budget assigned but there's no way we could assign a default budget, since the values to assign are both upper and lower time limits, are absolute, and need to be sum up to < 1 for each individal cgroup. That means we cannot really come up with values that would work by default in the general case.[1] For cgroup v2, it's almost unusable as well. If it turned on, the cpu controller can only be enabled when all RT processes are in the root cgroup. But it will lose the benefits of cgroup v2 if all RT process were placed in the same cgroup. Red Hat, Gentoo, Arch Linux and Debian all disable it. systemd also doesn't support it.[2] [1]: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1229700 [2]: https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/13781#issuecomment-549164383 Reviewed-by: Xi Ruoyao Signed-off-by: Celeste Liu --- arch/loongarch/configs/loongson3_defconfig | 1 - 1 file changed, 1 deletion(-) diff --git a/arch/loongarch/configs/loongson3_defconfig b/arch/loongarch/configs/loongson3_defconfig index b4252c357c8e232ec7ba452881dcd7cb0d7f9aa2..4d93adb3f1a220ddd19a5437ff074e7fa9f3e1dd 100644 --- a/arch/loongarch/configs/loongson3_defconfig +++ b/arch/loongarch/configs/loongson3_defconfig @@ -23,7 +23,6 @@ CONFIG_NUMA_BALANCING=y CONFIG_MEMCG=y CONFIG_BLK_CGROUP=y CONFIG_CFS_BANDWIDTH=y -CONFIG_RT_GROUP_SCHED=y CONFIG_CGROUP_PIDS=y CONFIG_CGROUP_RDMA=y CONFIG_CGROUP_FREEZER=y From patchwork Tue Sep 10 12:51:09 2024 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Patchwork-Submitter: Celeste Liu X-Patchwork-Id: 13798507 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from bombadil.infradead.org (bombadil.infradead.org [198.137.202.133]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9CCEBEB64DE for ; 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The problem with RT group scheduling is that it requires the budget assigned but there's no way we could assign a default budget, since the values to assign are both upper and lower time limits, are absolute, and need to be sum up to < 1 for each individal cgroup. That means we cannot really come up with values that would work by default in the general case.[1] For cgroup v2, it's almost unusable as well. If it turned on, the cpu controller can only be enabled when all RT processes are in the root cgroup. But it will lose the benefits of cgroup v2 if all RT process were placed in the same cgroup. Red Hat, Gentoo, Arch Linux and Debian all disable it. systemd also doesn't support it.[2] [1]: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1229700 [2]: https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/13781#issuecomment-549164383 Signed-off-by: Celeste Liu --- arch/sh/configs/sdk7786_defconfig | 1 - arch/sh/configs/urquell_defconfig | 1 - 2 files changed, 2 deletions(-) diff --git a/arch/sh/configs/sdk7786_defconfig b/arch/sh/configs/sdk7786_defconfig index 7b427c17fbfecb24d63e717023aad19ce1c953e8..3599b1683593b865d863800eb84b3f8f89d3d57e 100644 --- a/arch/sh/configs/sdk7786_defconfig +++ b/arch/sh/configs/sdk7786_defconfig @@ -17,7 +17,6 @@ CONFIG_CPUSETS=y CONFIG_CGROUP_CPUACCT=y CONFIG_CGROUP_MEMCG=y CONFIG_CGROUP_SCHED=y -CONFIG_RT_GROUP_SCHED=y CONFIG_BLK_CGROUP=y CONFIG_RELAY=y CONFIG_NAMESPACES=y diff --git a/arch/sh/configs/urquell_defconfig b/arch/sh/configs/urquell_defconfig index 00ef62133b04ded8d0b4221f11e0adafde99d386..9cf4a719001ea5ef4b031c1bbbf8098e8af5a2b2 100644 --- a/arch/sh/configs/urquell_defconfig +++ b/arch/sh/configs/urquell_defconfig @@ -15,7 +15,6 @@ CONFIG_CPUSETS=y CONFIG_CGROUP_CPUACCT=y CONFIG_CGROUP_MEMCG=y CONFIG_CGROUP_SCHED=y -CONFIG_RT_GROUP_SCHED=y CONFIG_BLK_DEV_INITRD=y CONFIG_PROFILING=y CONFIG_MODULES=y From patchwork Tue Sep 10 12:51:10 2024 Content-Type: text/plain; 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But systemd changed their recommendation later.[1] For cgroup v1, if turned on, and there's any cgroup in the "cpu" hierarchy it needs an RT budget assigned, otherwise the processes in it will not be able to get RT at all. The problem with RT group scheduling is that it requires the budget assigned but there's no way we could assign a default budget, since the values to assign are both upper and lower time limits, are absolute, and need to be sum up to < 1 for each individal cgroup. That means we cannot really come up with values that would work by default in the general case.[2] For cgroup v2, it's almost unusable as well. If it turned on, the cpu controller can only be enabled when all RT processes are in the root cgroup. But it will lose the benefits of cgroup v2 if all RT process were placed in the same cgroup. Red Hat, Gentoo, Arch Linux and Debian all disable it. systemd also doesn't support it. [1]: https://github.com/systemd/systemd/commit/f4e74be1856b3ac058acbf1be321c31d5299f69f [2]: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1229700 Tested-by: Stefan Wahren Acked-by: Kevin Hilman Signed-off-by: Celeste Liu Acked-by: Thierry Reding --- arch/arm/configs/bcm2835_defconfig | 1 - arch/arm/configs/omap2plus_defconfig | 1 - arch/arm/configs/tegra_defconfig | 1 - 3 files changed, 3 deletions(-) diff --git a/arch/arm/configs/bcm2835_defconfig b/arch/arm/configs/bcm2835_defconfig index b5f0bd8dd536990a0726e73a6855d25c1286a768..27dc3bf6b124c2012b7a1a768f2f900f49903cd1 100644 --- a/arch/arm/configs/bcm2835_defconfig +++ b/arch/arm/configs/bcm2835_defconfig @@ -7,7 +7,6 @@ CONFIG_BSD_PROCESS_ACCT=y CONFIG_BSD_PROCESS_ACCT_V3=y CONFIG_LOG_BUF_SHIFT=18 CONFIG_CFS_BANDWIDTH=y -CONFIG_RT_GROUP_SCHED=y CONFIG_CGROUP_FREEZER=y CONFIG_CPUSETS=y CONFIG_CGROUP_DEVICE=y diff --git a/arch/arm/configs/omap2plus_defconfig b/arch/arm/configs/omap2plus_defconfig index 3a166c2f02bd80634fee3bd8c4579fdbad84ccfa..9cb265c8d4144ea9a41f02640dbc8a06b710323b 100644 --- a/arch/arm/configs/omap2plus_defconfig +++ b/arch/arm/configs/omap2plus_defconfig @@ -13,7 +13,6 @@ CONFIG_MEMCG=y CONFIG_BLK_CGROUP=y CONFIG_CGROUP_SCHED=y CONFIG_CFS_BANDWIDTH=y -CONFIG_RT_GROUP_SCHED=y CONFIG_CGROUP_FREEZER=y CONFIG_CPUSETS=y CONFIG_CGROUP_DEVICE=y diff --git a/arch/arm/configs/tegra_defconfig b/arch/arm/configs/tegra_defconfig index d2a094ad360cefefbc3bd35226c5d23eadce42c1..3a9bda2bf422b14085c60b39a2c3df86fe0994bb 100644 --- a/arch/arm/configs/tegra_defconfig +++ b/arch/arm/configs/tegra_defconfig @@ -6,7 +6,6 @@ CONFIG_IKCONFIG=y CONFIG_IKCONFIG_PROC=y CONFIG_CGROUPS=y CONFIG_CGROUP_SCHED=y -CONFIG_RT_GROUP_SCHED=y CONFIG_CGROUP_FREEZER=y CONFIG_CGROUP_CPUACCT=y CONFIG_CGROUP_DEBUG=y